The War on Terror

Weren't they Saudis, why are we sharing nuclear development with them?

 

Not that again, Gardener.
Does nothing get through to you sometimes.
Please make the distinction between government and its citizens...for crying out load.

 

Weren't the hijackers Saudis? Last I checked the majority were Saudis. They weren't Iraqis, they weren't Afghanis, they weren't anything but Saudis. They weren't French, German, Israeli or Russian. They were Saudis.

 

I know they were.
You went onto say: "why are we sharing nuclear development with them?"
"We"would be sharing nuclear development with the GOVERNMENT.
Do you see the distinction?
Obviously not.

9/11 terrorists were: CIVILIANS.
Sharing nuclear development with the: GOVERNMENT

 

Saudi's perpetrated that the collapse of the twin towers on the US, not China, not Pakistan, not Iran, Iraq or Lebanon. And now we want to share nuclear information with them. How wise are we?

 

You've already made your point, Gardener.

I'll repeat myself too:

I know they were.
You went onto say: "why are we sharing nuclear development with them?"
"We"would be sharing nuclear development with the GOVERNMENT.
Do you see the distinction?
Obviously not.

9/11 terrorists were: CIVILIANS.
Sharing nuclear development with the: GOVERNMENT

 

09/11 terrorist if there were any were not civilians, they were truly the first combatants. They should have been identified and contained.

 

We shouldn't be sharing nuclear bombs with anyone. Nuclear arms should be a thing of the past, not a deterrent today. I thought ths country was working towards seeing an end to nuclear warfare. But I know the rich guys are only interested in selling their technology.

 

I don't understand this.

I understand this.

I don't know what either has to do with what you first said.

 

Agreed. But nuclear arms (a clearly abundant commodity since some FSU nation states can't seem to completely account for their inventory) will soon become the weapon of choice for your garden variety terrorist. How long before someone decides to use one? I don't really fear for Amerika, though where I'll be living soon puts me right in the path of a fallout cloud. We have pretty good intelligence and detection. I fear for the nations who have mistakenly supported the US since 9-11. A nuclear strike on London would be horrific.

 

Bush offered nuclear technology to the Saudis, shouldn't we ask why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bWuRMiB2-U

 

:cheers2:

 

if only it was a joke

 

Touche...but not really what I was laughing at.

 

A serious war on terrorism would have from the onset addressed the IRA in Ireland, I can't remember ever hearing GW address their existence.

 

Those that attacked our homeland were agents of some power they were not civilians they were acting on the orders of a power, perhaps not a recognized power officially. But since the majority were Saudis, I would imagine that government came into play. At least in so far as they allowed visas or passports.

I was responding to this quote by you. I personally don't think we should be sharing nuclear developemnt with either civilians or governments.

 

I remember The Nineties.

The Irish Republican Army was active in a campagain to win points by bombing targets in London. I worked in New York City with a Londoner, my co-worker knew that I am Irish and questioned me to find out my sympathies toward the IRA.

I felt ashamed that someone might associate me with a group that bombed innocents for political points.

Where is the shame in the groups who support bombing innocents?

President Clinton deserves credit for bringing atention to the problems and adding his prestige to the discussion

 

The IRA killed people, but I waited when Bush declared his war on terrorism he never once addressed them, and Tony Blair never brought them up either.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2008/aug/28/3

Why is that, because they didn't fit the turbanned fanatic profile? Their skin was as white as the rest of ours. They spoke English, they went to the same churches we did. Ireland doesn't have oil resources?

 

In Viet Nam we burned down many hooches .... good old Zippo lighter earned its stripes! Those hooches were home to families .... including mothers and children and babies.

In Afghanistan we blow up mud huts with laser guided missiles. These mud huts are home to families .... including mothers and children and babies.

As Walt Kelly said, "Pogo: We Have Met the Enemy and He Is Us!"

We are the freakin' terrorists!

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Muslim arabs are not the only humans on earth capable of spreading terrorism. Anyone can and will if pushed to that point. And that's why George W. Bush should never have been given the authority by the US congress to declare such an undefined, unlimited sphere of engagement.

If we wished to react intelligently to the attack on 09/11, what we should have done was a thorough investigation and an accounting by the countries that allowed their citizens to take such an action. But what we did was lash out in Afghanastan, let Bin Laden escape, and attack Iraq, protect powers in Pakistan that allowed the assasination of a viable candidate in a democratic election, allow Israel to bomb Lebanon a democratic nation back ten years, offer Saudia Arabia nuclear power, and threaten Iran, a country which extended condolences and offered to help both after 09/11 and Katrina.