the very first need in the life of everyone

Discussion in 'Love and Sex' started by P.K.J., Jun 4, 2011.

  1. The Imaginary Being

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    the first need in life is a persons basic needs. i have never agreed with maslow so much, but in the sense of a persons 'first need' i am inclined to agree with him.
     
  2. The Imaginary Being

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    nobody else will.
     
  3. ChronicTom

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    Wether that is true or not, I don't know... there are people who profess love for him....

    Should they? Or he?

    I really don't think so...

    Unconditional love, whether for yourself, or others, is permission to do anything with no consequences.
     
  4. The Imaginary Being

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    anybody who confesses their love for ted bundy has clearly never been raped.

    to be honest, i don't know what you guys have been talking about. my last comment was a silly, quick throwaway lol.
     
  5. ChronicTom

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    Doesn't matter, it demonstrates the point quite well.
     
  6. Fingermouse

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    The very first needs are milk and warmth.
     
  7. Plasticfantasticlover

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    Physically,Yes we do need warmth,food and oxygen from the second we are conceived. But if we don't get the love right away in our life we do die. Babies that aren't loved stop functioning then eventually die it's called Failure to strive.

    Emotionally, mentally there's a different form of alive. If no one accepts you and loves you for who you are you can't really love yourself. And if you can't love yourself you aren't truly alive.

    I dunno, That's just what I personally think.
     
  8. ChronicTom

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    Except for the bolded part, I agree...

    There are many many many unloved babies that have grown up to be very full and happy people... They learned to not look for false or unconditional love and rather sought out what truly makes people loveable.

    There are many who did die also, but it is usually in terms of they weren't fed or taken care of, which although is a part of not being loved, it wasnt the lack of love that killed them.
     
  9. Voice of Truth

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    You're right. You're right. You're right.
    It's lack of love and failure to love that make 99% of the monsters in this world.
     
  10. Plasticfantasticlover

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    I see it the same exact way. Think of what a beautiful place our world would be if there wasn't such a lack of love.
     
  11. Voice of Truth

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    Maybe it's that I was part of the love generation. Or perhaps it's the old Cosby joke about being an old man trying to get into heaven.

    But when I agreed to let my son have the Internet connected into my home. I thought I might be able to do something like teach people about the law or their rights.

    But as I started to interact with "online generation," I found that so many of today's youth lack the necessary emotional contact in their lives. Just in the same way I can't buy groceries without someone to drive me into town. The majority of these kids on her can't be healthy adults unless they get the emotional support.

    I know it's only vitural love. But hoplessness have never been a strong point of mine. So perhaps a few nice words written here might motivate some of them to do similar in real life.
     
  12. Plasticfantasticlover

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    As part of todays generation maybe i didn't receive enough love, but i defiantly love enough, I'm not lacking it at all. Granted, there aren't many like me at my age.
    Virtual life is better than no love, man. spread as much love as you can, anyway you can.
     
  13. Voice of Truth

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    It's certainly rare to find a young person today that is capable of loving. The only thing that I want to ask of you is don't ever stop. And if you can, try to increase it a little.
     
  14. desireu2

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    air & food are first two needs
     
  15. Voice of Truth

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    I've said this many many many times before and I'll say it again.
    When you consider just how endless time is and that you could have been born in the past or in the future. And when you add in that the universe is huge. Wow man, it's like as big in size as time is endless. That means the odds are against you being born on this planet. You could have easily been some sort of alien in the Alpha Centuauri region of space.

    It's like so wow and it's so incrediable that you're here now on this very same planet with us. What's more when you consider all the other kinds of animals on this planet. You could have easily been born a fish or something.

    But you're human, just like the rest of us. And that means you're beautiful. Oh so very beautiful and you're a humanbeing that deserves to be loved.

    So let me just say it again. I love you Tom! And there is no power in the universe stronger than love. So that means nothing that anyone can say or do to stop me sending you love. (Including yourself)
    Hey man,
    I'm not going to fight or argue with you. From now on, everytime you try and call me out. I'm going to respond to you with a message of love. And just so you know, someone sent me a message suggesting a "send Chronic Tom love" social group. Which I think is a really great idea.

    But I think that might be a little too much for you to handle at this moment. Afterall, everyone must crawl before they can stand up and walk on their own.
     
  16. Voice of Truth

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    Hey man, I still love you.
     
  17. Asmodean

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    Not everyone is the same. You can try to spread the message of love but don't be so naive to think that everyone is able to love everybody. Or that it is needed to be so. It's not a matter of good vs. bad or love vs. hate in life. Well, perhaps some perceive it as such and that's fine but others experience life different.
     
  18. ChronicTom

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    Oh and as for this part of your bullshit... My love is already free and open in this world, for those who truly know what love means and don't offer it to those who don't.
     
  19. Voice of Truth

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    I started off my life with the same ideas. My parents were the "typical" conservative americans. But than I embraced the peace and love philosophies of my generation. And it got me married with children and later grandchildren. (Soon to be great grandchildren. My eldest grand-daughter is pregnant.)

    But as the years went flying by, I kind of lost a lot of those peace and love values. It was the usual daily grind of work and responsiblities. But as I now see in my old age, the values of love without bounds are correct.

    There is always another "bad guy". So really this bullshit of find the bad people and punish them doesn't work. And any emotional satisfaction that the victims of bad people receive from punishment is temporary and does little to promote actual healing.

    As far as the perpetrators are concerned, our system of punishement doesn't want to rehabilitate the agressors. It wants them to turn them into bigger monsters. Afterall, the entire legal system is based on profiting from violence and misery. As a retired attorney it sickens me to understand that I wasn't making things better, I was just being opportunistic

    Everyone is capable of loving. But some people need more than others and you just got to keep giving out the love until it breaks down the walls.
     
  20. Asmodean

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    It's not about punishment, it's about that every emotion has it's use. Even hate. That hate is one of the most misused emotions and should not always given into is obvious, it does not mean we should love everyone. As long as you keep 'everyone' abstract though, it can be done easily (since it's actually not 'done' but just an aspiration).
     

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