Thanks to political correctness, I got blamed for the incident and told not to hurt the poor little dear's feelings, even though he had joined the high school in his 20s and was not in a well mental state. I learned about Al-Qaeda and the like from his friend. "Dude, what's the deal with Mohammed's locker? The arabic writing with the machine gun coming out of it what does that say?" "It says kill for God" "Ah, right, thanks." How did that turn out? Well, dude lost interest in school and drove a taxi until he had enough money to go back to the Gulf to become a muhajedeen. His father, who had escaped as a refugee and was thankful to get out of the war zone, apparently begged his son to stay in Canada. The son shot the father and left. Got on a plane to God knows where and is hopefully blown to smithereens and in hell with 72 devils poking him up the backside with hot forks.
Shortly after that, during the Hajj there was a collapse or stampede or something and hundreds were killed. A family friend of ours who was a good Moslem, a fine educated and cultured man shook his head when he heard the news and said something to the effect of "how could this be allowed to happen?" A bystander thought he meant how could Allah let this happen, as opposed to the human authorities herding the faithful, and seeing his way to 72 virgins, pulled a knife and attacked him in the middle of the mosque. Apparently stabbing a 60 something year old man who is infirm is a noble act. In a place of worship, no less. That severely colored my attitude towards Moslems. It is thanks to catstevens that I have since changed my mind.
Kharakov Don't associate true Muslims actions with Muslim terrorists' actions, true Muslims aren't them. Source: post 3 I wish you will read some books which interpret the OT by Neturei Karta (Aramaic: "Guardians of the City") group, it is a group of Haredi (Ultra-Orthodox) Jews; I read some of their conceptions regarding God etc, very rational, may Allah bless them, Amen. All Muslims esteem Mecca! Yours Sincerely, Cat Stevens
IronGoth You really don't have to thank me, it is my duty as a Muslim, and it is my pleasure =) Oh! I am so sorry for this dear IronGoth =(, those kind of Muslims should be educated more about Islam. I am so sorry for you for having such experience, I am crying now *seriously* when shall I see your dead body Osama when? I am really depressed now *sigh* ! This just emphasizes which kind of Muslims he was! Quraan [17.23]: And your Lord has decreed that you worship none but Him. And that you be dutiful to your parents. If one of them or both of them attain old age in your life, say not to them a word of disrespect, nor shout at them but address them in terms of honour. 24. And lower unto them the wing of submission and humility through mercy, and say: "My Lord! Bestow on them Your Mercy as they did bring me up when I was small." 25. Your Lord knows best what is in your inner-selves. If you are righteous, then, verily, He is Ever Most Forgiving to those who turn unto Him again and again in obedience, and in repentance. Quraan: And whoever kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell to abide therein, and the Wrath and the Curse of Allâh are upon him, and a great punishment is prepared for him. Quraan: And who does more wrong than he who invents a lie against Allâh. Such will be brought before their Lord, and the witnesses will say, "These are the ones who lied against their Lord!" No doubt! the curse of Allâh is on the Zâlimûn (polytheists, wrong-doers, oppressors, etc.) Quraan: Then do you believe in a part of the Scripture and reject the rest?.. on the Day of Resurrection they shall be consigned to the most grievous torment. And Allâh is not unaware of what you do. Thanks to Allah. Thanks to you for changing your mind =) Yours Sincerely, Cat Stevens
IronGoth Kharakov Note: It doesn't mean of Allah allowed or allows such things to happen that it is right deeds and please God, God's wisdom or plans etc are great, sometimes we don't grasp it, I know it's irrelevant to the main topic, it is just a note. Yours Sincerely, Cat Stevens
Ballad f Dwight Fry Accordingly: pick pleace 1.a huge conservative 2.fascist 3.ignorant 4. islamophobic 5. all of them[1-4] Yours Sincerely, Cat Stevens
Ballad f Dwight Fry [/color] well, that points that you are self-contradictory, moody, and maybe following your desires, am I right? read them again carefully with concentration. 1.a huge conservative 2.fascist 3.ignorant 4. islamophobic Peace Yours Sincerely, Cat Stevens
Ballad f Dwight Fry you said:all 5 and few more, which means that you are ignorant according to No.3, so correct your information that God, Allah doesn't diePeaceYours Sincerely, Cat Stevens
And you're still alive! indeed you have such a strong iron body myself , I'm bein' followed by a moonshadow, moonshadow, moonshadow Leapin and hoppin' on a moonshadow, moonshadow, moonshadow Peace Yours Sincerely, Cat Stevens
Ignorance is one thing. Deliberate ignorance is another. I will abhor things I find abhorrent and I will hold fast to that abhorrence though it may offend. I have in the past mistaken lunacy for Islam and abhorred Islam as a result. Though I still do not believe, I am at peace with it. But I will not tolerate murder in the name of any prophet, violence in the name of any prophet, or what have you. Mohammed is NOT to blame for recent actions. You might not agree with his words, but a simple trolling based on his name is not cool. I know people who have returned from the Gulf, people who have been shot at and seen comrades killed who have said "nuke it, pave it, ride it." I at least respect that their vision of reality is colored, and their impressions of the Gulf, Arabs, and Islam are based on that and will not quarrel. But your trolling is trying to enrage and isolate two people who have gone to great lengths to demonstrate behaviour completely opposite to the nutcases that will start world war III. We get it, you don't like Allah. That's fine. But stop provoking these guys. They do not deserve it.
When will terrorists realize that God or Allah will judge the wrong doers when the time comes, not them.
I knew one american who once told me in a discussion at a political board that his greatest dream was to start an terrorist organisation which he would call as Uncle Sam's Fidayeen and the ulitmate goal of this organisation will be to bomb Mecca on the holy day of Ramzan with a 1000 megaton nuclear bomb. I think he was joking though........but it is scary that are some Americans who voice such opinions on the mainstream media
So true Muslims do not shelter and fund Muslim terrorists? Then there should be no problem with U.S. attacks against those that shelter these terrorists. In fact, true Muslims should be helping the U.S. weed out these terrorists. There should be a massive outpouring of love and support for the U.S. among all true Muslims. We can then ignore all protests against U.S. actions against terrorists and terrorist supporting regimes as protests from false Muslims. I will look, thank you. So it should not be taken from true Muslims just because false Muslims esteem it as well.