The Ukraine Crisis Part 1 The initial Battles

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    Today Intelligence Briefing from the UK

    Encirclement is continuing of the major cities in an attempt by the Russians to get their shorter range artillery into range of the city centres . They will then use brute force to try and break the Ukrainian resolve .

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    A shopping Centre Destroyed in Kyiv .

    If/When the Russians lose this war the rebuilding of Ukraine at their cost will bankrupt them .
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    This will be the cause of a coup.
     
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    Somewhere, sometime, someone will take him out. There's just too much money involved with all his, uh, 'associate' zillionaires..
     
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    As I keep hearing journalists use incorrect designations on some of the Tanks and Infantry Fighting Vehicles ( IFVs) ,I would list the most commonly lost or captured examples on both sides

    I will start with Russia who have lost a staggering 1663 vehicles so far .

    T72B3 2016 Model MBT .62 currently lost or destroyed


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    T80U MBT .43 knocked out or captured
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    BMP2 IFV. 80 knocked out or captured
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    The Ukrainian losses now with 500 lost or captured

    It must be noted that the vehicles are very similar in appearance to the Russian vehicles as these were supplied or derived from Soviet designs . This is because the Ukraine was a major part of the old Soviet Warsaw Pac .

    T64BV MBT. A total of 62 lost or Captured

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    T80BV MBT just 3 captured or knocked out . Tanks losses for the Ukraine have been relatively light so far as they started of with 2500 Main Battle Tanks and IFVs

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    BTR4 IFV .23 knocked out or Captured

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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    I can believe that . Average equipment with ill trained operators . :D:D:D:D
     
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    Point 3 is badly why Ukrainians need the aircraft whilst Nato dither amongst themselves. .

    The Russian ground forces are a lame duck but the West cant find the shot gun to put it out of its misery .

    This smacks of the 1930s when Germany annexed Austria walked into Czcheckoslavakia and then joined Russia invading Poland whilst the West did nothing . Great Britain then tried appeasment with Chamberlain going to Munich and came back with that infamous slip of paper that wasnt worth wiping ones arse with . The rest is history as they say
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    Exactly . All these talks the Europeans are having are just that, talk and PR spin . I will be surprised if anything comes from the Nato meet with the US President on Thursday . The Europeans are frightened of WW3 . What they dont realise they are already in it . But on Putins terms .The Ukrainians have been begging for aircraft to stop the constant bombing of their schools and hospitals . But the Europeans are frightened of upsetting Mr Putin. All that needs to happen is for the aircraft to be rebadged in the same way the Soviets rebadged their MIG17s in the Korean War.
     
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