The terrorist Muslims!

Discussion in 'U.K.' started by catstevens, Jul 23, 2005.

  1. Raskalization

    Raskalization Making plans for Nigel

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    Yup, as i said, one race :)
     
  2. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    RE: but i didn't think it was worth starting a new thread about so i said it hear
    I hope it doesn't disagree with the rules in the forum, any body knows?

    RE: seeing how there is a muslim here to answer my questions/ aspertions.
    A casual Moslem :) who likes reading.

    RE: well here it is smartism
    Smartism :) new religion.

    RE: moses( i beleive he appears in the quraan under a different name)
    Not a different name, let's say a different way to pronounce it exactly like Jesus è ( Yasooa as Arab Christian call him, Yashowa in Aramaic if you watched the movie. Moses in Arabic è Mosa.

    RE: Moses was brought up in the house of a pharo so naturally would have learnt the idea of astrology; and seeing the turn of an age, with the blessing of the egyptian preists, lead (his) people into the dessert to form a new religion away from the constraints of the polythiest pharo.
    Did you read the story of Moses from Quraan? It isn't like what you said. è naturally would have learnt the idea of astrology// egyptian preists?? He is the prophet of God PBUH.

    RE: and because of this enforcement of philosphy i find orthodox religion, well quite frankly i find it disgusting.
    What if an orthodox member read that, please respect their belief and feelings :(


    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
     
  3. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    RE: people should be encouraged to be spiritualy free, not bound by dogma and dated doctrines.
    If everyone will do as he like and as his desires, whatever he wants, without anything any rules, I think the answer is clear. Every one then will consider according to his desire what is good and what is bad? Where are you fuzzy? join us, I will quote to you what fuzzy had said:
    Quote: ((Here is something else to consider - for those who think spirituality is good, but organized religion is bad......

    spirituality is DEFINITLY good. It is like the soul.

    religion is like the body. It is the attempt to put into practice, to bring into everyday life, what the sould feels.

    So it starts simply....and like any other human undertaking....it develops and evolves.

    Take for example the Highway System. The highway system started out as rabbit and deer paths. The Native Americans followed them on foot. Settlers made trails out of the Indian paths....and added carts, which expanded and got paved. voila...two hundred years later we have the highway system....

    religion is the same way. …. have a more correct, less simple opinion.....good/bad are very simplistic, and erronerous, categories from which to understand complex social systems.

    spirituality has "bad" things about it if you think of evil as part of spirituality.....

    so, let's try to see the big picture, and realize the complexity of our modern situation.
    ))
    Back to stevens (me :))

    Quote: Originally posted by Cat Stevens
    Look to the life , we can't live this life without rules , each country over the world has its own rules ( constitution ) and without it the world would miss , I think there wouldn't be a life ? every body will kill the other (revenge or whatever) , stealing ,nothing will stop them , now there is rules and the crimes are in high levels , what will happen then without rules , Oh my God ( MERCY ) ,So , creatures need rules too from who knows them very well ( of course God the creator)
    Allah stated :

    '' should not he who has created know? And he is the Most Kind and Courteous, the Well-Acquainted ''
    '' should he not know what he created?''
    Chapter:67, verse:14

    Quote: Originally posted by Cat Stevens
    Let me tell you something, please brother, try to read it by your mind and heart not by your eyes.

    God's rulings issued from his: knowing, wisdom and fairness, not vainly, not futility and in the Qura'n he stated:

    ''He allows them as lawful At-Tayyibat (i.e. all good and lawful as regards things , deeds , beliefs , persons ,foods),and prohibits them as unlawful Al-Khab'ith (i.e. all evil and unlawful as regards things , deeds , beliefs , persons , foods)…..''
    Chapter: 7, Verse: 157

    So, briefly, all good things are allowed, all evil bad things are prohibited. and allowance (allowing) is only God's right (who invented the computer knows best what disable the computer and what doesn't, because he invented it. when he says to you: be sure that sun's ray don't reach the computer otherwise it will disable the computer, or when he says to you: the computer is not waterproof, so, you will take account of his instructions), and of course the computer inventor has the right to give the instructions (do &don not) because he knows what he is saying.
    So, God created you and he knows best what avail us and what harm us, he wants your advantage, and looks how we return his favor?? We are thanklessness , ( if somebody tell you : brother ! don't eat from that restaurant , their viands are not edibles , you thank him and thinking of a way to return his favor to you , he saved your health) , so , when he prohibited ex. Fornication ,be sure that he prohibited that for a reason , and we don't need the scientists to prove if fornication is noxious , because we trust in God and beyond his allowing and prohibition a reason (wisdom) , and it emerged that fornication is noxious ex. It causes Aids and other things. Consequently, God knows best what avail us and what harm us, he stated:

    '' Should not he who has created know? And he is the Most Kind and Courteous, the Well-Acquainted (with everything)''
    Chapter: 67, verse: 14

    God told us the prohibited things so we will know it and then we will avoid it.
    Besides to that, we have to know that beyond prohibitions some other (wisdoms) ; he wants to test us , so that he may see us how we act ?
    A test from the God to us to know how you will deal with it? will us obey him or not?
    One of the reasons that made the dwellers of Paradise privileged from the dwellers of the fire (Abaddon ,hell), that they were patient on undesirable orders to them which were ordered from God and without that test from God , then not emerge the obedient from the disobedient. God stated:
    '' Do people think that they will be left alone because they say: ''We believe,'' and will not be tested? – And we indeed tested those who were before them. And Allah will certainly make (it) known (the truth of) those who are true, and will certainly make (it) known (the falsehood of) those who are liars, (although Allah knows all that before putting them to test). ''
    Chapter: 28, verses: 2&3

    The believers are patient to the difficult of God's orders to: (1) get the rewards , requitals and recompenses from God and (2) to obey his orders so then he will be satisfied with them ( obedience God's orders = obedience God ) (3) at end obeying God is to their own advantage (RE:God created you and he knows best what avail us and what harm us)

    Let me tell you something,
    The computer inventor, he invented the computer so that the computer will do what is ordered to him from the inventor, the inventor clicks on a folder twice and that mean in computer language (open the folder), so it will open it. If your computer doesn't respond to your orders , tell me honestly what will you do? He is not just not responding , he is doing other things that you didn't asked it to do it? Not just that, it is destroying, removing , deleting your precious stuffs?? honestly what will you do?
    Myself , I will kill him by removing the plug that the computer is connected to it.

    Consequently, look brother to your God, he is the most forbearing, Oft-Forgiving, clement, Most merciful, he is the one who accept repentance and the most gracious, he is patient to his creatures , may they will change someday and obey him , he is giving them long time and several chances, although they don't obey him and don't careL

    Jewellee is one of whom converted to Islam has said:
    Following Gods direction (awkward to call it law because it's much more than that)

    Virtually, the religion of God is the religion of life. When you want to have an adventure let say in a forest , you will take a compass , map and a booklet to warn you from things and to guide you to what you have to do if you have an accidents, get injured, …etc . And that is the religion of God , it is a compass , map and a guide-book to the happy , safe , salubrious and assured life.

    And as I said previously: Look to the life , we can't live this life without rules , each country over the world has its own rules ( constitution ) and without it the world would miss , I think there wouldn't be a life ? every body will kill the other (revenge or whatever) , stealing ,nothing will stop them , now there is rules and the crimes are in high levels , what will happen then without rules , Oh my God ( MERCY ) ,So , creatures need rules too from who knows them very well ( of course God the creator)
    Allah stated :

    '' should not he who has created know? And he is the Most Kind and Courteous, the Well-Acquainted ''
    '' should he not know what he created?''
    Chapter:67, verse:14
    YoursSincerely,
    CatStevens
     
  4. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    RE: why pray five times a day.. do i need a mosque or a church for this... do i need to stop eating pork … ETC.
    Allah sent his Prophet Muhammad with proofs that he is his prophet, also Allah gave evidences that Quraan is his word, that why Moslems believe strongly in the Quraan, so then if Allah ordered to pray five times, seven times that is up to him:
    Quote: Muslims is the adjective of the noun Islam: is an Arabic term which means: ''submission'', points to the fundamental religious creed which dictates that a Muslim submits to the will of Allah, conforming inwardly and outwardly to his lows. i.e.: the right way of life consisting of submission to whatever God has instructed.

    So again when we were sure that the Quraan is his word then we don't argue to any of his commands because we trust in God and beyond his allowing and prohibition a reason (wisdom), even if we didn't realize the wisdom. We know he wants our advantage.

    RE: ploytheism has died..

    Are you sure? Open your eyes, perhaps you are not from this planet or doesn't know a lot a bout polytheism :)
    YoursSincerely,
    CatStevens
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  5. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Question: who created the universe? Do you believe that there is a creator?
    Myself , I think that there is no use to discuss these stuffs ( why we pray –why we fast…) as long as you are not Muslim because we Moslems does not argue Allah's commands, what is the benefit in arguing his commands and you basically don't believe in him as a God?
    I think we have to discuss firstly 1) is there a creator? And if we believed that there is a creator then the next question isè 2) who's the true God (creator)è we have to have proofs after that è 3) what is the true religion of God (the creator)?

    Again: The topic of my thread is about(the terrorist Moslems), you can discuss about God and creation by private messages or open this link
    And read posts # 1/ 18/ 28
    #28:

    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
     
  6. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Raskalization
    RE: Yup, as i said, one race [​IMG]

    :) Adam's offspring==> (Adam's grandsons)==> (Adam's sons)==> we are brothers.
     
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