that's so ridiculous... Sex is also for pleasure. I'm pro-choice, and I am never having kids, ever. I don't like them, I don't want them. But at the same time, I'm a VERY sexually active person. but I practice safe sex. Condoms, the pill, etc. and you know what? i've never become pregnant. I go to Planned Parenthood often as well and I educate myself. If I were to become pregnant I would have an abortion. you're black and white statement is ridiculous... i'm sure both sides of the issue here can see the stupidity in your argument.
well back to the base topic of this thread, what solution to abortion is there? In all honesty I don't think there is one myself. Mankind as a whole loves to argue. Granted in the end of most of the bigger arguments of our history somebody or bodies die. The problem is we've got millions of lives dying for this argument but the solution to it is still too far off, if it ever even comes. In the end it's best we all just agree to disagree ya know? Cause we're never all gonna agree, plain and simple. Untill then I'll still keep trying to save as many unborn lives this agrument is killing as possible. Peace, love, and freedom to all you groovy people.
And what about the people who were adopted and went into a family that was abusive and live traumatic lives and just wish that their birth mothers would have aborted them... you don't think this exists... because it does. What if you had been aborted and had a chance to live in another world for a little longer, a carefree existance as a spirit in a mystical dimension and then a few years later your mother was ready to have a baby and you came into this earth, via the same mother that aborted you a few years ago... because perhaps her mental stability and physical body could not handle a pregnancy at the time, but say, she healed herself over the years to correct that problem... I just think there are many sides to every circumstance, and seeing only one side is irresponsible.
Because of course if she did have a reason to lie, she'd totally tell you. She probably get pregnant in a carpark when she had sixteen different cocks in her and just didn't want you to go the same way. Everyone who has sex ed is taught that no form of birth control is 100% effective, and that even using two 99% effective methods still leaves a slim chance that something will happen. That's why abortions should be available. It's not a reason for people not to have sex, and at the end of the day, it wouldn't stop people even if it was. You're only 26, dude, get over yourself. I know she's a young silly girl who doesn't understand logic, but Jeez. Sorry, what right is that? Is it the same right that a tumour has to live in your body? Sorry to sound glib, but yeah, basically you could've been aborted. You weren't. Happy happy joy joy. If you were, you'd be dead and wouldn't care. Happy happy joy joy. Everyone's heard arguments like this, and they don't wash. You may have had a good start in life, and everyone is, I'm sure, grateful for the life they have. But no-one really wants more orphans, and you'd have A LOT more orphans if abortion were made illegal.
1. Your Aunt's story sounds like a load of bull, but it does give me some insight as to where your obnoxious conservative politics came from. Did she also punish you for having impure thoughts? 2. If sex wasn't for pleasure, it wouldn't feel so damn good. How about you get off your high horse. I asked you in another thread if you remained abstinent, and surprise surprise, i got no response. 3. It sickens me to know that your mom could've had an abortion but didn't. And maybe that's harsh, but I checked out the website you've been promoting all over the men's issues forum, ya know, www.menarebetterthanwomen.com, that one. It gives me the creeps. It's like the KKK. But instead of hating African Americans, you hate women. It's the same mentality. It's sad to me that instead of spending your time trying to make the world a better place with love and compassion, you've chosen to spread hatred and disrespect toward a population that without which you wouldn't exist. 4. If you love your life so much, and you're so glad you're in it, consider the fact that your biological mother had sex for "selfish pleasure" and voila! Here you are. So before you start bashing sex for pleasure, consider that you wouldn't be here without it.
lol, you're hilarious. What, you think sex is only for procreation? What a joke. Yeah, I have sex for pleasure. Yep. I pleasure myself and my lover. And you know what? We LOVE it. We ENJOY it. Yes, i would DESTROY a FETUS if it messed with my life plans / survival. I want to live my life independently, making my own dreams come true. I'd rather not be one of those exhausted women you see dragging themselves and 8 screaming, drooling brats through the mall. I love my sex life, and I love life in general. And yes, if I was pregnant with you, I would have an abortion. Nothing personal, its just... I will NEVER give birth. Hell no. its wrong to force someone to give birth, regardless of the conditions. if someone wants to have sex and they're being reasonably responsible (birth control), good for them, rock on! I'll gladly give them condoms, some lube, and kinky sex toys.
aside from the comment about me not understanding logic, I agree with you. I really doubt her whole aunt story. People have and always will have sex for pleasure. there's nothing wrong with that so long as both people are safe about it. Even if they aren't, hey, its their life, as long as they don't hurt anyone else.
Hurrah! Agreed, agreed, here here! Sounds like a psycho conservative neocon nazi to me. "Sex is for procreation, as God wanted! Pleasure is a sin! Women are meant to serve man!" Fuck that shit. I have sex when i want, for pleasure. I don't worship any hateful jealous god that tries to tell me what i can and can't do with MY body. I love to devulge in pleasures. I love sex, chocolate, and weed. I serve no man. I am an independent woman, i take care of myself, and I don't let ANY man control me.
Adam Smith would disagree with you. At the neurochemical level, no act is selfless; we are altruistic because it makes us feel good, or because guilt would make us feel bad. It's great that you think your birth mother was awesome, but I think if you meet her you might be seriously disappointed.
1. If sex was painful, the human race would die out? So shouldn't it have already died out by your logic, once women figured out that childbirth wasn't the most pleasant feeling? 2. I didn't see a disclaimer anywhere on that site stating it was a joke. And I looked up some television appearances of your precious Dick Masterson, and he doesn't seem to think it's a joke either. It's easy to say you're not a misogynist and actually love women indeed! But no one believes you. And when you embrace some creepy cult with mottos like "all women are whores", you're not just pissing off militant feminists. Sorry. 3. If we want to talk about superiority. Let's consider who's superior in the case of an adult female and a clusterfuck of cells in her uterus. I guess that's also one way a woman is superior over man huh? Because if we add "unnamed male who divulges in selfish pleasure", he really has no say until he grows a uterus of his own. Illegalizing abortion isn't going to stop women from aborting babies. Is that what's getting your panties in a twist? The fact that you can't control a woman's uterus? 4. Perhaps you should look up the actual definition of feminazi. If they have a million websites, I've never come across one. It's not a double standard, because there's no feminazis spreading garbage all over the forum and promoting their distasteful websites. You willingly came here, promoted your garbage website, and now you don't like what happened? Oh, and MEN are getting sick of it. Funny. Of all the men I've met, you're the minority on that one, so maybe you should stop speaking for all men, and rightfully state that you're actually speaking on behalf of a small minority of assholes. 5. You're so irritating. If you came from a website promoting the hatred of men, I would've commented on how you wouldn't be alive without the male population. If you think that all women do in reproduction is gestate, maybe you should take a biology course. Neither sex gives life. It takes two to tango. 6. So saying women treat men like bank machines, and you're out to reward ladylike behavior...doesn't sound the least bit misogynistic to you. I'm going to have to take personal offense to that. I'm actually nine months pregnant, I'm due in 3 days, and I worked my ass off up until recently to pay the bills. In the meantime, my boyfriend's been changing jobs like underwear, and has sat here unemployed for a quite a while now. So who's the bank machine? And you know what puts the cherry on that sundae? The fact that I can still smile because he's a great guy. He has his faults, but those faults look like icing when you put them next to the shit that comes out of your mouth. 7. Had you come here and just been anti-choice, there wouldn't have been a problem. A lot of people on these forums aren't pro-choice. But that's not what you did. You wanna act superior, deal with the fact that nobody likes a dictator.
So anyone who thinks it's lame bullcrap just "doesn't get it"? Spare us the superiority trip, please.
Good Lord, I hope you people still aren't arguing about wether or not abortion should be legal? You should be asking why no one is paying for the development of artificial wombs! Fight the real enemy! :$
Everyone around you? Are these the same people you speak of here? And if so, how come none of them are arguing in your favour here? For someone with so many adoring fans who speaks for unfathomable numbers of men, you seem very much alone here. Where are these men? Are they too busy getting drug-raped by women, or protesting in Spiderman costumes about paternity rights? Or, in fact, are they perhaps imaginary?
wow, reading this, i realize, you're really sick in the head. You know what? I'm a woman. And you're not better than me. I don't behave, I'm rebellious, and proud. I read books and educate myself. i take part in debates. I will never respect you because you see me as less than you. I am a human being just like you, and I am equal to you. I have just as much right to live as you. You really are a sick fuck. I love my boyfriend because he sees me as an equal on all levels; we're partners, a team. We make love and enjoy it. We're spending the rest of our lives together and following our own path, our own rules.
Here's the solution to your abortion issue. Have a national election of just the women, exclude the men, and let them decide for themselves how handle it. As men we can't get pregnant so its really not our issue to begin with, but it seems most of the people you see fighting for one side or the other are male. It's a woman's issue, so let the women decide for themselves by a majority vote.