The Shadow People

I had an odd exerperience on LSD once. I was staring up at the stars trying to get a "transmission" ...but I kept getting distracted because I really felt like there was this big for legged shadow thing racing around me in circles, quickly spiraling closer and closer to me. Im getting chills writing this.... I could it hear it panting. Like a werewolf or something. I definately felt its prescence.

So I had to stop and clear the space....

 

Never seen them or rakshashas, or demons or anything of the sort. Just bad humans.

 

Iv seen shadow people since i was very little. Id see them everywhere, during the day and especially at night but just for a slight second only long enough to see their black bodies zoom through. My mother always said those were just bad spirits and to just pray and they would go away, but thats only what she told me because i was young.
In my later years i did some digging in my families past and found out my great grandmother was a spiritist who would conjure and command them. A dark secret indeed i know. Well one morning after coming down from a roll i felt really weakend and in a state of limbo with my mind. I layed in bed with just a think blanket covering me. i remember the sensation of freezing cold hands on my back and i quickly looked up and remember seeing something moving extremely fast in my wallmirror which spanned the wall btw, so it looked very proportionate to that of a human.
I felt the same cold touch on my hands, somewhat guiding my hands in the shape of letters. After asking some questions i finally asked for a name. That name will forever be etched in my mind now.

I highly suggest never trying to communicate with these shadow people if you have a fear of anything other worldly or supernatural because you could be opening doors to your mind that you do not want open.

 

That shit fucking freaks me the hell out. Are these shadow people real? What was the shadow person's name??

 

one time in my bed while real stoned i started seeing a bunch of them all over me like on top of me and stuff and i was getting damn fucking scared so i started singing "i can see clearly now" and getting happier and no longer could i see them, but i mean that is very probably a stoned as fuck kid in his dark room thinking hes having some encounters.

 

jees its funny seeing how so many ppl interpret these spiritually. perhaps shadow people are the inspiration for heaps of ghost stories?

at any rate, shadow people exist. in your mind. no where else. theyre seen in the peripheral vision because the mind has less details in peripheral, instead has to piece together signals from the imagination to interpret moving stimuli.

peripheral vision, according to wiki, contains many rods and few cones. rods are used to detect brightness/darkness - essentially for detecting movement. overreaction of a detection of movement can lead to the mind thinking it was caused by another human, or animal.

 

I think its more than just peripheral vision picking up shadows....Science cannot explain everything in the known universe because we do not even know it completely. Science is constantly evolving, and one day it will truly recognize various realities that individual/multiple minds have created to be VALID.
Infinite possibility, and limited possibility. Whatever you choose to acknowledge/create.


I think this thread is trying to dig deeper than just weird hallucinations, but a type of energy that you feel in that situation. It definately feels real to me. I can tell the difference between what you described, and parasites feeding off certain people, especially when I do energy healing work....

I have even seen a shaman pull a giant writhing shadowy maggot out of a girls neck! Then the shaman proceeded to cough, and gag.

 

i don't think i have seen shadow people...well i had an "imaginary friend"(he was real i could see and touch him...) who told me to call him the shadow man but other then that no. i do see and talk to spirits all the time and always have as far as I can remember if that counts even though they are different

 

the shadow people had a wedding once in my friends living room
**dxm

 

id never really considered this concept before, but it seems that so many people here can relate to it, including me. i think that science offers an explanation, but its also something supernatural (i hate that word) as well.

i can kinda relate to all this, but ive always dismissed what i now think could be something similar to this as just my mind playing tricks on me

very interesting subject this one

 

I may be way too stoned for this thread

I saw all kinds of shadow people when I took 775mg of diphenhydramine. Every tiny bit of movement in your peripheral vision was transformed into a live being. Whether it be solid or electrical or shadowy, it moved and was alive and existed, even in my direct sight, for minutes on end and I could watch them and interact with them. I also saw my teddy bear stand up and walk across my shelf.

I have had contact with the shadow folk other times too; both sober and fukt up, but nothing like the DPH HCl.

 

^want to expand on the times you have had contact with the shadow people sober, topnotch?

 

Maybe.......

I have 100mg of 2c-E on it's way in the mail, so maybe I will make a few new "shadow friends" when I recieve my order.

 

shadow people are often seen by people after a long time bingin on psychedelic drugs. ket addicts are often well assosciated with shadow people and iv heard of a few meth addicts having the same problems . and from what i heard its a very scary exeperience. often its just like a paranormal exeperience without the aide ( or lack of ) drugs. iv almost shit miself readin some trip reports with shadow people really dont wana see none lol. im no expert but this is what iv heard nd it may be of some use. xxx

 

I had this thing sitting on my chest and trying to strangle me while breathing like a pervert in my face. It was invisible but I could feel it's form and size with my hands, it was ice cold, 70 cm high and about as heavy as a small dog. I was sober and wide awake too, though I had smoked the day before. Never seen him since, but my stepson saw him some months afterwards when he was four years old, even though I had never told anyone about my experience yet. The poor boy refused to go into his bedroom for over a month.
Shadow people exist but you can choose to ignore them and they will dissapear. It seems to me like they feed off peoples fears and weaknesses. The way I got rid of him was just to ignore him and go to sleep (kinda figured that I could'nt run from it).

Sometimes while on shrooms I hear little people whispering in the corner of my room (I tell them to shut the fuck up and leave me alone, then they go away), but apart from that I never have auditory hallucinations on drugs.

 

I had an idea what you all were talking about, and I have indeed sensed something akin to what most of you have described. When I was younger, I used to percieve a form leaning into my bedroom, as if to check on my brother and I, who I believe to be the presence of my mother's great aunt, who apparently has that reputation in our family of being universally benevolent, and who is my sister's namesake (distinct spelling of the name Kerin, her maiden name).

However, being interested in the subject I looked it up on various sites, and I've come to this conclusion - the fact that this phenomena has been repeated in the lab using electrical stimulation of the brain points to it being a brain-triggered event, not anything actually "real." I don't mean to imply that it can't happen outside the lab, because obviously it does...what I mean is that somehow your brain would occasionally produce the right kind of current, given certain sets and settings, in the right place in your brain, thus causing you to percieve any variation of the idea of shadow people.

 

All the things you see around you a really just in your head and many visionary, auditory, tactile, smell and taste sensations can be produced by stimulating certain areas of the brain. Even mood and personality can be changed by fiddeling with the brain. You do not experience the world around you directly, you get electrical signals from your sense organs and your brain interprets them. Everything you see is just in your head, but that dosn't make it any less real for you does it? So does electrical stimulation of the brain points produce shadow people or does it just make you able to see them?
Why do some people see things others don't? Is it because there is something wrong with their brains? Are mad people really mad or are they just being overloaded with information that we normal people filter out?

Is any state of consiousness really false, and how can you prove that? Some states of consiousness are not conductive to normal functioning in the physical world. You wouldn't want to see fractals on every surface or hear voices from people that aren't there on a daily basis would you, that would make life very difficult. When I trip on shrooms I know that my brain is just interpreting electrical signals from my senses in a different way than normal. If this happens when you have not taken drugs and there is no other medical reason that you should be experiencing this, then how do you know that what you are seeing is not real?

 

You are contradicting yourself - first, you say that there's a possibility that shadow people are real (does electrical stimulation produce shadow people or does it just make you able to see them) and then you say that a trip is just your brain firing electrical signals in a weird way....so which is it? If you can hallucinate at all, why can you not hallucinate shadow people?

Why do some people get mad at different things, and why does something not piss everyone off?

You should look up the definition of "conscious" and then ask yourself if what you asked is a legitimate question. To save you time, and cuz I don't want to get all involved in it, basically consciousness is being self aware and aware of your environment, so basically, yes, there are false states of consciousness. Once again, you have contradicted yourself and didn't know it, because right after you ask if any state of consciousness is really false, and how could you prove it, you say that there are states that are not conducive to functioning, yet definitionally that's what consciousness is.

And no, all the things I see around me are not just in my head; assuming that the world is not some Matrix-style simulation, these objects actually exist, whether or not I am here to percieve them. For example - I was never in this dorm room before, yet it existed before I got here. It did not suddenly pop into existence when I moved in. And yes, you do experience the world around you directly - we are not watching through video screens. What you describe is a direct observation, what else would it be? The reason I say it's not indirect is because even though sensations have to be carried from the spot they originated to the brain to be interpreted, this happens in a matter of small fractions of a second, thus they are essentially instantaneous.

 

You are assuming that everything around you is real and not a Matrix-style simulation, that is why you assume that there is a real world outside your consiousness. Such an assumtion can not be proven. You say that consiousness is being aware of your enviorment, but you don't really know what your enviorment is (you can't prove it), so how can you say that being aware of a different enviorment than usual is a false state of consiousness?

I am not contradicting myself as I would not be contradicting myself if I said that matter is both particles and waves. Things can be seen from two seemingly contradictory (and mutually exclusive) positions without either being a false veiw.
Consiousness is not defined as a state that is conductive to functioning, consiousness is awareness, nothing more and nothing less.

If you say that things really exist you are assuming an objective physical reality that as I stated can not be proven. It is just as possible that things are not there when you cease to be consious of them. You don't know for sure if that dorm room existed before you got there because knowing that would mean that you are directly consious of it at the time.

We do not experience the world directly, you experience the world through your senses which sends electrical signals to your brain, it is up to your brain to interpret these signals. There are no images being transmitted from your eyes to your brain, no noises and no smells, they are just electrical signals. Your brain decides how to interpret these signals and what parts of the signals should be filtered out before they reach our consious mind. If you were aware of all the sights and sounds that your senses picked up, you would be overwelmed with information that for the most part is irrelevant or unimportant to normal functioning. Bypassing that filter may well be what happens when you trip, thereby allowing you to percieve things that are otherwise filtered out. It is not uncommon to hear and see small details while tripping that you otherwise would be unaware of, this gives your consious mind a different set of information to process and will therefor influence your perception of reality.
So how you experience the world is really all in your head. Since you can not be certain that there is anything outside your consiousness (since you do not experience it directly), even the theory of signals coming from your senses describing a real physical world, may be just your imagination. Consiousness has not been proven to be linked to a physical brain, hell you can't even prove that there is consiousness on an objective level. The only proof that you are consious is your own experience of it.

 

whenever i think aobut shadow people while shrooming or just baked, these thoughts rush into my head and it feels like these shadow beings are invading my mind.. and they are sorta comic book style and remind me of the aliens from south park..
when it gets really intense it freaks me the fuck out