The Psychedelic Revolution

Sorry Desos, but you are just wrong in this instance.

 

If what we mean by "God" is "creator", then is not everything of creation also of God?
Thus we can find meaning in cats and piles of shit and books?
What different does it make to you if I discovered the meaning of life while watching two raggedy cats have sex in the middle of the highway?

 

ok. but i still see the things which i am deriving and explaining as being true.

 

Yes I can. Only a fool would think otherwise, or someone very naive without much experience beyond their own little world.

God dude, you can't really be that dense can you??????

No I meant EXACTLY what I said. Animals don't possess the cognitive ability to make "moral" judgements about situations or actions because they DON'T HAVE A BRAIN THAT IS PHYSIOLOGICALLY CAPABLE OF SUCH THOUGHT!!!!
Plain and simple.
"you look to cats to understand the essential morality of life," how in the fuck you came away with that from the language I used I will never understand.

That is your biggest mistake in ALL of these discussions Desos, you hear what YOU want to here, not what was actually said. You have done that with just about every post that disagrees with you and the majority of things you quote. Desos, why can't you just take something at face value based on the words and context used?????
No matter how hard you try, you can't get around the MEANING of the words used. Stop trying to force everything to conform to YOUR philosophy.

This has become pointless and you are making yourself look more foolish with every post.
You have contradicted yourself, if not in word, in intent more than a few times throughout this and other discussions.

You will find more "truth" and satisfaction in your learning if you quit approaching everything and everybody with the intent of cramming it into your ideology.

If you can not step back from yourself and see that then any further discussion is simply :banghead:

I for one am tired of :beatdeadhorse5:

As always a pleasure to converse, although a bit frustrating.:cheers2:

 

Oh yeah PB, the old man routine was very entertaining. Although watching someone flail their wrinkled dick is an acquired taste.

 

Well I don't see how except with a lot of twisting of meaning and word games.
When it comes to Biblical references, especially the Pauline epistles, there is very little wiggle room for interpretaion. Paul used language that was very precise and I am always amazed at the mental gymnastics people will go through to force it to support thier own views or agenda. It means what it says and says what it means.

 

:smilielol5:
You sound as though you speak from experience.
Theres always Viagra.
(that reminds me, gotta go to the pharmacy later)

 

Cheers!

 

i think that we are on the same wavelength... this has gotten really excessive.

The other day they waited, the sky was dark and faded,
Solemnly they stated, "He has to die, you know he has to die."
All the children learnin', from books that they were burnin',
Every leaf was turnin' ; to watch him die, you know he had to die.

The summer sun looked down on him, his mother could but frown on him,
And all the others sound on him, but it doesn't seem to matter.

And when the day had ended, with rainbow colors blended,
His mind remained unbended, he had to die, you know he had to die.

Spanish lady comes to me, she lays on me this rose.
It rainbow spirals round and round it trembles and explodes.
It left a smoking crater of my mind I like to blow away.
But the heat came 'round and busted me for smiling on a cloudy day.

Comin', comin', comin' around, comin', around,
comin', around, in a circle
Comin', comin', comin' around, comin' around, in a circle,
Comin', comin', comin' around, comin' in a circle.

Skippin' through the lily fields I came across an empty space,
It trembled and exploded, left a bus stop in it's place.
The bus came by and I got on, that's when it all began,
There was cowboy Neal at the wheel of the bus to never ever land.

Comin', comin', comin' around, comin', around,
comin', around, in a circle
Comin', comin', comin' around, comin' around, in a circle,
Comin', comin', comin' around, comin' in a circle.

And when the day had ended, with rainbow colors blended,
Their minds remained unbended,
He had to die, Oh, you know he had to die.

 

We find our solution when conceive of the needs of others to be consistent with our own. My solution can only be our solution.

 

Come on now! We've got to get at least 60 pages goin of this debate!

 

What?, you want 28 more pages of this :banghead: followed by some more of this :beatdeadhorse5:

Masochist

 

lmao. i think that it all comes down to the fact that regardless of our differences me and smith would still get along in real life. that is all the psychedelic revolution really means, that people would be able to live together in a harmonious enviroment and put their differences behind them and forgive eachother for the sake of love.

 

Either that or I would just beat you instead of the horse.

 

Just kidding.
What is funny is how we take turns at the wall and the horse.

*PB_Smith* "OK Desos it's my turn on the horse, my head is starting to bleed."

*Desos* "Sure thing PB, my arms were getting tired anyway"

 

come on then :boxing_smiley: ill take three for good measure. after all that i'm pretty tired of :beatdeadhorse5:

 

Fight Club!

 

Wow, did some guy on this thread laud the psychedelic revolution then dis on birth control for being 'unnatural' and relate it to 'fear of conception'? Sheesh.

First off, LSD-25 isn't natural. At all. It's a chemical compound created by a fairly complex set of reactions.

Second, though LSD has had some awesome affects on our culture, and has a hand in the beauty that is slowly unfolding as we move forward into a new way of thinking, ever so slowly, birth control has had a hand as well. Because it's been a major factor in bringing us closer to an actual equality of the sexes then we've been since men invented war.

Until -you've- carried a child for 9 months, don't hate on women 'fearing conception'. Birth control isn't about fear, it's about power and about freedom. It's about having the ability to control when and how one will conceive and bear a child. It's about being able to have hopes and dreams of things other then raising a child. It's about the freedom to enjoy sex, as separate from the act of producing a child. It's about freedom from being beholden to whatever man you give in to desire with, in hopes he will help you provide for your child. It's about freedom from fear, freedom from having to defend yourself from male sexuality until you've secured a promise of support. It's about not bringing a child into the world until you feel ready to provide it with love and stability.

Birth control is one of the coolest things to come out of all the pretty toys technology has given us. LSD and the internet are 2 more.

 

Hey autumnbreeze, could you please quote the post you are referring to?
As far as I know I am the only one in this thread that mentioned "the pill".
If you are referring to my post then I am utterly baffled at how you could construe the meaning that you seem to have from the words and language I used. The context was relating to societal changes that led to and fueled the "psychedelic revolution" in the '60's and how American society differed from the decades immediately preceding it. The advent of the pill in the late fifties and it's FDA approval in 1960 was a HUGE impact on the concept of family and sexual freedoms. As such it did play an integral role in the changing attitudes in America regarding personal freedoms and liberties.

Nowhere in my post did I "dis" birth control, quite the opposite actually, and it was just an example of one of the many small pieces of the puzzle that give rise the eruption of ideas and attitudes of the sixties.

I think maybe you need to go back and re-read the conversation and that post in particular. Really, How in the hell did you get all that from what I said????

Here is a short synopsis on the history of birth control if your interested.
http://www-scf.usc.edu/~nicoleg/history.htm

As a father of six, I know a thing or two about pregnancy, and child rearing.

Welcome to the forums and hope to hear more from you.:cheers2:

 

The process could be described as synaptic crystalization. As we read or listen to a conversation it is constantly being reduced in complexity by filtering the information through wiring established through the relationship of association. Through this patterned associative process what you hear becomes something you heard before and we stop listening to what is being said and start dealing with our own associations. In this way we become entirely misconstrued. It is not so much the fault the listener as it is a mechanical response to stimulus.