The problem with Marijuana being legalized.

Discussion in 'Cannabis and Marijuana' started by Zassou Kitsuensha, Oct 24, 2005.

  1. Zassou Kitsuensha

    Zassou Kitsuensha Member

    Messages:
    317
    Likes Received:
    0
    Amen!
     
  2. rangerdanger

    rangerdanger Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,601
    Likes Received:
    2
    "The value of buds would drop significantly. It would probably be $20-30 for an ounce of potent, organic nugs."
    Nope.
    People are willing to pay a lot more than that for it; the price would rise accordingly.
     
  3. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

    Messages:
    18,750
    Likes Received:
    276
    So true, the government would milk it for everything that it's worth. Sometimes I don't even want it to be legal, it's far too sacred to be government sanctioned.
     
  4. ConcealedCulture

    ConcealedCulture Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,849
    Likes Received:
    2
    It definitely would in an open market ranger. If farmers could legally grow fields or wharehouses of bud, the supply would go way up. The consumption would not increase that sharply.

    Now if yall are talking about a strictly regulated market, I guess it could maintain near current prices. I don't see how prices would increase. there would still be people growing outside the bounds of the regulations.
     
  5. makno

    makno Senior Member

    Messages:
    7,443
    Likes Received:
    3
    if you realy think about it..... mega death civilization is creating a lot of grief , stress , n angst that wouldnt be here naturaly .so , abolish it , along with every form of organized coersion .....and replace it with a decentralized .volentary and cooperative matrix of societys without boarders or prisons ......and although everyone can grow what they want ....even the prohibited.. hops , baco , n gange ....the need for millions to self medicate against a pandemic of needless grief ......will lessen the amount actualy consumed .
     
  6. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

    Messages:
    12,543
    Likes Received:
    1
    hops is illegal is it?
     
  7. makno

    makno Senior Member

    Messages:
    7,443
    Likes Received:
    3
    you need a licence and its like tobaco
     
  8. TeaWithATwist

    TeaWithATwist Banned

    Messages:
    540
    Likes Received:
    0
    You can still brew small batches of beer and the like. You can get little kits.

    And you are thinking of this the wrong way. Are cigareettes the only way to consume tobbacco? No. Are they the only way to buy tobbacco? No. So what makes you think if weed was legal the only way to buy it would be processed joints?

    Unless the government put a legal limit on THC content for any producers I see us still being able to get quality bud. If they did put a legal limit for THC content there would still be a black market, and almost nothing would be changed.
     
  9. Spunky_Willams

    Spunky_Willams Member

    Messages:
    88
    Likes Received:
    1
    you can possess less then 4 ozs in your residence and not get charged in alaska
     
  10. syd

    syd Banned

    Messages:
    1,365
    Likes Received:
    1
    BAN THE GOVERNMENT!!!! TOM MORRELLO RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE< CHE GUEVARRA ANARCHY HARDCORE!!!!!

    Sorry
     
  11. Spunky_Willams

    Spunky_Willams Member

    Messages:
    88
    Likes Received:
    1
    [7] In Alaska we have also recognized the distinctive nature of the home as a place where the individual's privacy receives special protection. This court has consistently recognized that the home is constitutionally protected from unreasonable searches and seizures, reasoning that the home itself retains a protected status under the Fourth Amendment and Alaska's constitution distinct from that of the occupant's person.42 The privacy amendment to the Alaska Constitution was intended to give recognition and protection to the home. Such a reading is consonant with the character of life in Alaska. Our territory and now state has traditionally been the home of people who prize their individuality and who have chosen to settle or to continue living here in order to achieve a measure of control over their own lifestyles which is now virtually unattainable in many of our sister states.

    [8-11] The home, then, carries with it associations and meanings which make it particularly important as the situs of privacy. Privacy in the home is a fundamental right, under both the federal and Alaska constitutions. We do not mean by this that a person may do anything at anytime as long as the activity takes place within a person's home. There are two important limitations on this facet of the right to privacy. First, we agree with the Supreme Court of the United States, which has strictly limited the Stanley guarantee to possession for purely private, noncommercial use in the home. And secondly, we think this right must yield when it interferes in a serious manner with the health, safety, rights and privileges of others or with the public welfare. No one has an absolute right to do things in the privacy of his own home which will affect himself or others adversely. Indeed, one aspect of a private matter is that it is private, that is, that it does not adversely affect persons beyond the actor, and hence is none of their business. When a matter does affect the public, directly or indirectly, it loses its wholly private character, and can be made to yield when an appropriate public need is demonstrated.

    Thus, we conclude that citizens of the State of Alaska have a basic right to privacy in their homes under Alaska's constitution. This right to privacy would encompass the possession and ingestion of substances such as marijuana in a purely personal, non-commercial context in the home unless the state can meet its substantial burden and show that proscription of possession of marijuana in the home is supportable by achievement of a legitimate state interest.



    This is from Ravin v. Alaska check it out
     
  12. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

    Messages:
    6,514
    Likes Received:
    4
    Not so. The supply might go up a bit, but not a ton, because farmers aren't stupid and won't grow more than they can sell. They also have to make money on it, enough to live on and also pay for the expenses of growing it. If they flood the market, prices would plummet (because demand wouldn't likely jump much) and they'd all lose money. I guess most farmers would fail and only a few would be left to supply it. The problem with that is that they'll have a sort of monopoly on it, them being the few growers left, so quality might suffer.

    So I can see prices going down a bit, maybe by 50% tops, but even that's a stretch (of course this is all speculation anyways). In reality, it'd make more sense for a farmer to grow a bit of weed, but still mostly grow his usual crops. Another cool thing is there'd be a lot of hemp grown for the fiber, instead of how it is now where it's hard to get permits and stuff, and you're always harassed by the FBI and DEA. We could stop destroying our forests for paper pulp, and stop growing so much soil-destroying cotton.

    Also, it is legal to brew your own beer or wine, and hops isn't illegal. Making liquor is illegal without proper licensing, probably so they can tax it. Same for tobacco, you have to apply for a licence/permit. Tobacco is a bitch to grow though, or so I hear, so I doubt it'd be worth the average person's time or money to grow a personal stash.

    Marijuana, however, is a different matter. You could get great quality and do it for very cheap if you grew your own, so long as you're armed with a bit of know-how.
     
  13. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

    Messages:
    12,543
    Likes Received:
    1
    if weed was legal there would automatically be tonnes of shitty weed from the hemp crops
     
  14. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

    Messages:
    6,514
    Likes Received:
    4
    ^that's stuff ain't even smokable, they wouldn't sell that as marijuana.
     
  15. ConcealedCulture

    ConcealedCulture Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,849
    Likes Received:
    2
    You just disagreed, then halfway agreed. I don't understand how you can claim the prices wouldn't drop drastically. Right now, being an illicit substance, it is way overpriced. If it were no longer a black marketed item, it would be much less of a risk to grow and distribute, and transport in large amounts. It's pretty basic economics if you ask me. But I guess we will have to agree to disagree..
     
  16. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

    Messages:
    18,750
    Likes Received:
    276
    But if it were legalized the government would tax it to make money, causing the price to rise. This would be easily fixed by growing your own, but they would probably still find a way to regulate that somehow.
     
  17. deadonceagain

    deadonceagain mankind is a plague

    Messages:
    3,123
    Likes Received:
    13
    ok people seem to be going back and forth with alcohol laws first off,Alcohol sales are regulated in the United States. Though alcohol is available over the counter :
    Only those over the age of 21 are legally allowed to purchase alcohol.
    It is illegal to purchase alcohol for a minor.
    It is legal to brew beer and ferment wine for personal consumption without a license.
    In order to sell beer or wine, a license is required.
    It is federally illegal to distill hard alcohol (even for personal consumption) without a license.
    It is illegal in most states to drive (or operate vehicles) with a blood alcohol content of over a certain level (.08 in some states, .1 in others)
    there realy isnt a inforcment on the home making of beer and wine,i know ALOT of people who do and the cop do not give a shit at all,tabacco in the US is not regulated only children cant buy or posses it,other then that you can do what you want with it. if marijuana was legalized they wouldnt add anything to it because of the way marijuana is used it can be eatin and smoked. The way it is sold wouldnt be like buying tabacoo at a gas stasion it would probably be a "coffee shop" setting or a head shop were just marijuana associated things would be sold,i dont tihnk a respetable place where marijuana is sold would even sell marijuana with chemicals added, i dont see this problem in amsterdam why would it happen here. Also alot of people will home grow alot of people who smoke enjoy growing there own weed for alot of reasons,i think everyone here basicly wants the same thing they want to be able to us marijuana with criminal punishment i think there shouldnt be any marijuana laws at all.
     
  18. AmericanWanderer

    AmericanWanderer Member

    Messages:
    283
    Likes Received:
    0
    Lol. Amazing.

    Prices could go down or up depending on the rules the government set. It could go either way.

    But I don't think they could stop us from growing it at home. We've been doing it for too long.
     
  19. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

    Messages:
    6,514
    Likes Received:
    4
    plus, with weed legal in general, who'd really report? It'd be such an inconsequential law...which could also be fought, anyways. If it's legal for some but not others, that's not right. I suppose the license could be really expensive, but that'd be lame and would become the most ingnored law ever. haha.
     
  20. Twizz

    Twizz Drug Conoisseur

    Messages:
    3,020
    Likes Received:
    1
    Those are all male plants I believe. They do not grow buds. I think that is what I have growing outside my house now.
     
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice