The oversexualization of breasts.

Tits are the greatest things. I love mine. But, they are mine. Sure, it's good to get a *hey...nice rack* but not from the whole fuckin' city. Y'know...it would be degrading. Most women already complain that there is far too much *women hate* in the world, but people like you rant about not getting to show your tits in public. Focus on the things women need most in society, the right to breast baring isn't one of those things. You'd get attention, obviously...but, you'd get pissed at all the attention. Like DarkLunacy said...would you get mad if a guy grabbed his junk when you passed him..even if it weren't over your tits? Hell yea you would, you'd have all kinds of sexual misconduct charges brought on him.
And, it's not just men who "oversexualize" them. Women do it too.

 

men are attracted to breast, basically because of religion. religion says that womyn must be covered. so, during sex men see the breast. waa-laa he associates them with sex. i think this is stupid...men can take their shirts off when outside, why can't womyn (here) i know in some places, womyn can now take off their shirts as long as they aren't being lewd...which i think was a great victory for womyn...

i'm not really sure where i was going with this, but i just wanted to give you all my two cents

 

Who says women cant be topless? Show the world your titties!

 

Just wait until the weather gets a bit warmer then I will!

 

Oh---I don't know.When I lived in the jungle on the Kona side of the big island--most of us went without clothes-and to tell you the truth--after a few days,I never noticed if people had anything on or not.Habituation as I think KC said.I would imagine if everyone went without clothing-there would'nt be many overweight people left after a while.

 

By George I think someone may have it.

 

I dont think breasts should be characterized as a sexual thing more as a beautiful thing.


peace
chickens

 

It is NOT! It is a LEARNED RESPONSE. (And jimaan, so is the rare response of womyn who have orgasms while breastfeeding. In studies, a large number of these womyn have been sexually abused as children, and thus have lost the ability to have a normal sexual response. I have worked with womyn like this, ALL of them have great discomfort in this response, and ALL of them wish they didnt' have it.) Look at most of the world, breasts are NOT sexual.

Also the societal wide sexualizing NON sexual parts of the womyn's body (like say, the feet) leads to sexual perversion (say foot binding, or cinching of waists to the point of damaging internal organs) and inappropriate sexual response. Which is WHY the societies which think that breasts are "sexual" tend to have a low opinion of womyn, as well as high sexual assault rates. Also, breasts are FOR feeding babies, in societies which degrade womyn, children are almost always taken as less important also. (particularly female children.)

 

Quite honestly, I don't care about "going topless." I do think it is a silly, unneccesary double standard, but my main concern is that sexualizing of breasts, and making them a "sexual organ" (which they simply are NOT) degrades womyn, as well some men (by their behavior.)

Breasts HAVE a Natural Purpose, and that has NOTHING to do with face to face intercourse, sexual attraction, or belief in the "ability to make milk." It is JUST that the DO make milk. That is the purpose, and sick societies makes this a lot more complicated than it should be.

Face to face intercourse facilitates LOOKING at your partner. Actually the "playing with breasts" is made easier by a back entry position. Face to face intercourse is common in ALL humans, as well as Bonobo Chimps (our closests relative) it happens in ALL human and Bonobo societies (as well as a few regular chimp societies and a few other animals) and in these (with the exception of the sickened 13 human societies) there is NO sexualization of breasts.

Most of the world does NOT think breasts are sexual.

 

Has anyone ever heard of reflexology?

There are nerves connecting through our entire bodies. True, there can be a sexual response through nipple stimulation, (as well as start labour and/or get labour moving along.) The same response can also be had through stimulation of a certain part of the foot, hand, thumb, just above the knee, on either side of the bum, lower back, inside of foot, a few different parts of the calf, just between the navel and pelvic bone, etc.

Perhaps all of these parts of the body should be considered sexual, they certainly would be when using these methods of categorizing. Should we than demand that all of these parts of a women's body be covered in public at all times (oh, I mean other than extremely descreetly while using them for their other use.)

 

Lunar, dear, did I ever tell you that I love you?

Maggie

 

Lol, Maggie sugar! I love you, too!

 

You haven't given us any proof that it is a "LEARNED RESPONSE". So let's have it. And why don't you provide us with a list of the "thirteen societies" where breasts are sexualized. It would be interesting to know what they are, as my hunch is that they are in fact probably the LEAST patriarchal societies on the planet. Which leads one to wonder, just who is really responsible for the sexualization of the breast.

As for orgasm during breastfeeding. I'm not sure how having an orgasm while breastfeeding is a learned response, as an orgasm is not something that is learned, rather a response to stimuli. I find it very dubious that you would attribute it to having been sexually abused. I doubt you have proof of this.

Or the sexualization of the male posterior by women, resulting in the wearing of jeans during the 1970s and 1980s that were so bloody tight that mean's testicles were crushed, causing instances of decreased sperm counts. It goes both ways. Women sexualize men, too--whether or not frigid radical feminist misandrists such as yourself want to admit it.

Well, since you haven't provided us with evidence regarding which socities sexualize the female breast, it's unreasonable for me to accept your argument that this leads society having a "low opinion of women". Let's not forget that societies that abhore female sexuality, and which view the sexualization of the female breast as sinful, are ardently patriarchal. So in essence what you are saying is that patriarchal societies hold women in high esteem, hence is a more ideal type of society. Interesting logic.

Again, this notion that societies that sexualize the breast results in children being considered less important "(particularly female children)" is complete hogwash. Societies that tend to view girls as less important as largely societies in which men are expected to be hunters, providers, and warriors. It has nothing to do with the sexualization of the breasts. You're just blowing radical feminist ideological chunks here, and you're proving to everyone just how propagandized you are, and incapable of rational, intellectual critical thinking. Maybe instead of obsessing about breasts, you should spend more of you time learning to think for yourself.

 

Well, if the breast is NOT sexual, then, I presume that you would have not problem then with someone walking up to you and squeezing your breast as a means of greeting you, just as they would shaking your hand. Oh, but don't you feminists consider this sexual assault? So how is it then that the fondling of a non-sexual body part can constitute sexual assault?

 

Go to a medical library. Read the Ford and Beach study, read Breastfeeding: Biocultural Perspectives by Patricia Stuart-Macadam and Katherine A. Dettwyler Phd. Then get back to me.

 

I figured as much: you can't or won't substantiate your illogical argument. Citing certain studies as proof, not going into specifics, and then telling the person who asks for the proof to go "find out for yourself" destroys your credibility. Not that you had much in the first place, considering that you've never really supported any argument that you've made. As for avoiding my other questions, that speaks volumes as well: you don't know what you're talking about.

 

I know exactly what I am talking about. The Ford and Beach study is not available on the internet, I am NOT going to run to the Loyola Library and scan the study for you. Do it yourself.

READ THE FUCKING STUDY YOURSELF if you are so interested. Read the book, too, I am not going to post an entire 400 page book so you can simply say you don't beleive it.

 

All I'm doing is asking YOU to substantiate claims that you make. If you CAN'T or WON'T, then DON'T make them. It's as simple as that. There's no need for you to get vulgar and abusive--you're the one at fault here, not me.

 

Well, I dont believe for one second that breasts were intended (at the begining of mankind) to be sexual. Yes they are erogoneous (sp?) but so are many other parts of the body. Somewhere....God knows where.....they became regarded as sexual and private and that is just the way it is today. I dont get it at all, but that is how society feels about them. I think it is sad just how much emphasis is placed on women's breasts these days with girls as young as 18 going out to upgrade their b cup to a c cup so that they feel sexier.

And I also find it sad how jiimaan hangs around in the women's forum (especially since he is no women) and never has anything positive to say.....just wants to argue with women. Not that men arent welcome in the women's forum....but come on! Perhaps his mother never taught him how to interact with women and so he is 'testing the waters' so to speak But that is just my guess.lol. (dont get your panties in a knot over this one jiiboy)

 

Where is it stated that this is a women's thread and men shouldn't post anything? Men have breast/chests/nipples and they also have an opinion on women's breast.