The oldest religion in the world - that is islam

Sun Worship

 

hmm, the realization that all religions are the same comes with being mystical. Hindus consider everybody who lives right to be a hindu.

 

Absolutely and that includes Islam.

Allah ho Akhbar!

 

Well, there must be some other criteria for whos a hindu or not?

 

Judaism is the oldest religion, passd on by oral tradition. Zoroastrianism is the oldest written religion.

 

adam, i think most peopel in here fail to see the point

 

lol.. yea : )
Human laziness, they answer the name of the thread without reading what ive written

 

in its simplest forum, to be hindu, you must believe in God. - this is what has been explained to me.

 

Moon.

 

I say that when I pray, especially if I'm praying for someone's salvation, including the body of Ishmael.

God's will is always right, because He knows Everything. And is the only one who does.

 

Yup, Im glad we can agree on that one, and Claudia..
Il be praying for the guidance of you as well ^^

 

Adam, have you seen the movie Submission? I wonder what your opinion is about it.

 

Nope, cant say Ive had

 

I like this thread. I believe all human beliefs stem from a single unifying quest for knowledge, driven by the same force (God, Allah, Brahma, the Creator, Ahura Mazda, the Dagda, its the same force seperated by language and culture). Im just wondering then, what about Buddha, Krishna, Kung Fu Tze, and other eastern (and not to mention the now forgotten pre-christian western) spiritual leaders, would you consider them to be Muslim? For my personal beliefs, I believe that all religions are one, but I dare not put a name on that one belief.

 

"would you consider them to be Muslim?"

Who am I to consider someone to be or not to be under the category of "muslims" while I only know an insignificant knowledge of some of the previous mentioned. Concerning Siddharta, is it possible for someone to be in a state of "submission to God" while at the same time "rejecting" Him?

 

Concerning the words Islam and Muslim, I believe that there should be more words than this, being as these are Arabic words and it is a religion not bound to one certain people or language. I consider muslims to be believers, and that is my panglobal term for it, but thats just me.

 

I can make the same argument that Christianity is not from 2,000 years ago.
Its the oldest religion on the planet.
Since it simply means 'Following (submitting) to Christ (God)'.
So there ya go Cab.

I can make an even better case the Judaism is the oldest since it never 'started' in the sense you just had God and you just had people who submitted to him.
Abraham for example.
Its not that Abraham 'started' Judaism (submission to God) but that he simply did what was already there to be done.

Do you see where I can just as easily say this?

In fact, Judaism goes back that far.
Islam does not.
Its the most recent one and its the one with Muhammed.
Anyone saying 'Muslim' or 'Islam' understands we mean as revealed by Muhammed.
We dont say the Moon God worshippers before him were 'also Muslims' or Hubal was 'also Allah'.


(well some people say that yes Allah was a Moon God before Muhammed remade MoonGod in Yahwehs image but this is another story)

 

To say that there was no Islam before Muhammed is like saying that there was no Judaism before Ezekiel, which you have already stated that you believe otherwise. do not be so quick to refute the beliefs of others, for you will find that yours may be just as easily quashed.

 

I think my very point was that the popular Islam argument that they supercede all known religions could really be used - just as easily - by any other religion.

For another example: A Mormon can just say "Well Mormonism is not actually a religion that was started a few centuries ago and its not even a 'religion' because in fact 'Mormonism' simply means submitting to God.
(use exact same phrases and concept just insert word "mormonism")
So
'Therefore'
Mormonism has always been there and thus the oldest religion on earth.

See how anyone can just as easily do what Cab did?

 

The "oldest religion" is sanatana-dharma, which is clearly revealed in the Vedic scriptures of India, notably in the Bhagavad-gita. Sanatana-dharma is a Sanskrit term that means eternal religion, eternal truth, or eternal duty. The Bhagavad-gita describes very succinctly what is universal and eternal truth, without birth or death, and what is temporary and undergoes apparent birth, dissolution, and death.

Even saying that sanatana-dharma is the "oldest religion" in relation to "other religions" is a misrepresentation, because using the word "old" implies that it came into being at some point in time...it never came into being, and will never cease to be; and using the word "religion" in this way implies a sectarian faith.

The scriptures that describe sanatana-dharma are arguably the oldest scriptures in known history, certainly precede the New Testament and Koran, and are at least as old as the Old Testament. They also originated in a geographical area thousands of miles distant from the areas in which the books of the Bible and the much later Koran originated.

All names for religions: Hinduism, Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, Mormonism, and on and on, are sectarian designations for faiths that actually have sanatana-dharma as their foundational basis.