The Magic of the 60s

Socity told Real American what life was about, what it really means to be alive, and he belived them.

Gullable...

 

Hmmm, aperently. It is sad for him, and sad for the rest of the society who buys into that, and just shoots for the "american dream" because they are told that is the best they will ever get!

Of course we will never truely have peace, but we can make a difference and we can make things change! We can make OUR lives peaceful, and we can pass that on to our children. We can at least tell these (as dh would put it,) "brainwashed drones" that there is more than what they think there is. It seems that a good deal of people in this world who really cannot see past what they've been taught to believe, RA aperently one of them. Ha, or maybe they just don't want to. The unknown can be scarey, but it is the only way to change!

Wasn't it Ghandi who said "Be the change you wish to see in the world."?

 

Let me ask you...where did I say I was against peace? Where did I say I was against getting along with everyone? Lunar forest, you truely are dense. Seriously, from the first day I posted on these forums your peacful self has been all over me calling me a troll, crying, and complaining. You yourself proove that peace will never work. I mean hell, you call your self a hippie and yet your actins on here proove otherwise. In my last post I merely stated reality. The 60's idea didn't work. If it had, we would all be hippies.

I said this:

You said this:

So tell me what it is that makes you better than me? As a mattr of fact, with your statement above, this could be said to you as well:

You see what I am saying here? You attack me even on the thing we agree on. How stupid is that? Please, for your sake and your childrens sake, get your priorities straight. Nothing in any of my post suggests that society is where I found my information. I found it on expirience alone. You are living in a dream world to think that this whole world will live in peace right now. Of course, with my beliefs in God and what The Bible says, ther will indeed be a time of world peace. That will be when the Anti-Christ shows up and that will last for 7 years. So lunar forest, until you can make up your mind and stand on your own beliefs without jumping on yet another bandwagon(ie Psilodelix on his childish post) you need to stop posting. Oh, and for your last post, I would love for you to tell me what it is that you are talking about here:

Or maybe this is another one of those times that you opened your mouth and nothing but trash talking came out?

And finaly to Ocean Byrd:

I love hypocrites. Way to be peacful there little boy. Anyways, if you support sex with children well then that is your own sickness. Don't come back and say "I don't support it" because your post here clearly states that anyone with a brain should be allowed to do what they want. With her being 13 she is just hitting puberty. To me, that would be a sad thing if she was already having sex. I made my post based on caring and concern, you made yours out of maliciousness. You too need to grow up.

Let's try to keep the topic where it is supposed to be. I feel the 60's idea was a failure. I feel people are currently trying to relive the 60's by copying what people did back then. I feel it will fail again. Your thoughts?

 

I didnt mean to disturb anyone.... ooops.

 

Real American, that's just it "you don't GET IT"... There is nothing that makes me better than you! I just happen to be 1000% more in thouch with the purpose or "what life is about", and the purest path of life for a human. I'm 1000% more in touch with nature than you are or have ever been ever were and probably never will be... and don't speak to me about LSD, your expirence is worthless because you aparantly didn't take 1oz of insight away from the time you spent with it. This privlage which has enrighed my life and perspective is not exclusive to me... Im not the only "jesus", so to speak...

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"In my last post I merely stated reality. The 60's idea didn't work. If it had, we would all be hippies."
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This is a rediclious statement!!!!! What are you thinking??? The "hippies" that were so prevalant in the 60's and early 70's.... first off, most were not enlightened, Whatever hippie culture that there was manifesting was squashed out through: 1. end of vietnam 2. lack of organization 3. The drugs and narcotics act 1972(severly restricted their vide)... anything that was left could not really stand up to a full on culture-war with the "white picket fence"WASP model of the american family. Trust me buddy your level of logic and consciousness is amazingly LARVAL.
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"I love hypocrites. Way to be peacful there little boy. Anyways, if you support sex with children well then that is your own sickness. Don't come back and say "I don't support it" because your post here clearly states that anyone with a brain should be allowed to do what they want. With her being 13 she is just hitting puberty. To me, that would be a sad thing if she was already having sex. I made my post based on caring and concern, you made yours out of maliciousness. You too need to grow up."
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Being peaceful does not mean you have to take whatever shit comes your way, just be non-violent about it. This entire paragraph is a fucking barel of monkeys. How the fuck are you going to argue conagitive liberties and the make a comparason to social sexual norms... and trying to emotion-up you argument by comenting about a 13 yea old girl... low... how old are you exactly? I'm not afraid if everyone knows how old/young I am because I'm not ashamed of this part of my life... why don't you post all your info, any pecker could come in an anoniomously fight for his view.


Why come on a thread called 'the magic of the 60s' when you are an bushie!!! You support the fucked war... You're so far gone we, can't even help you here... you're probably just to dumb... or you were abuseing the drug and it came back to bite you in the ass.

or just... Gulliable

Nothing about any of my posts were childish, you simply can't make an argument with out adding an insult on top... everyone else then implements the same stratigy in a frantic pace of this amazing "cosmic cock-measuring" contest that were all having. You arguments are hollow... this is the guy who you always run into in weed circles and he'll be saying some really lame shit like "yo, pass the doobie man, huh..huuh.huhuhu..I'm so high...huhuh..huhu.hu..."

You took LSD 'to see pretty colors and giggle', didn't you... read my quote, it applys explicitly to you and yours. 'Just cause ya drove around the neighborhood once dosen't mean that you live there.'

have you ever smoked 5-MeO-DMT?
Psilocybin Mushrooms?
Mescaline/Peyote?
MDMA?
Reasearch Chems?
Cannabis (in 1/8 per week)?

-PsDX

 

LOL! I think we can all have a good long laugh at this one!!! We would all be hippies? Seriously? Is that what you think the movement was about? You are drasticly mistaken, ra! It was about the exact opposite! This is what I was talking about when I said

The hippie movement is about NOT conforming! It is about being free enough to be one's self, to be natural, to be in touch with the earth, to be respectful of nature, to QUESTION athorities - not to follow anything/one blindly, to be informed, to love and be loved, to live peacefully, etc. Certainly not to convince everyone to be like us! The hippie movement had/has nothing to do with causing anyone else to be hippie!

 

You know, thank God that this forums was updated and now has the feature of IGNORE! RA, you are now put on ignore. WHO ELSE IS WITH ME?!?!


BTW, Kitaro, Lunar is a womyn.

You all take care.

 

im sorry to get yall off topic... about my original sex, drugs, and rock & roll post.

no really I've got my own plans I'll do these things when I'm ready. Right now I'm not, Im still finding myself but if somebody thought they were ready at my age I wouldn't stop them. Years and maturity are two very different things.

anyway i didnt mean it literally... i just meant if somebody wanted to live that way , well good for them, I've only got one life as far as I know, so Im going to have fun as soon as Im ready.

ok i hope i made some bit of sense. I need to stop posting this late. I begin to think in scrambles

 

I never said I supported it (notice how I don't say "I don't support it"), but I did say that you have no right to tell others how they should live their lives or what is morally correct. All I'm saying is that people will live the way they want to, and you have no right to say that they are doing something wrong; it's their life. Besides, since I'm such a hypocrite, maybe you should recollect the fact that you did coccaine; isn't that something you shouldn't have been doing? Even at your age, it's still morally wrong, so how the hell can you tell someone to not do drugs? If doing something makes someone happy, then let them do it god dammit.

 

i dunno, you can yak at someone all you want, that doesnt mean they have to listen though...

 

Apparently, all those drugs you are so happy about using have seriously screwed up your mind. I never said that to you. Go read it again, then read it a few more times. Try doing it sober so you can understand what I am saying and not try to look at it with some 5th dimension perspective. And then, in all your highness and self absorbed feelings, you contradict yourself by saying you are better:

Here is what I am thinking, who are you to tell me my opinion is wrong? Oh wait, you must have recieved a telepathic msg from God while triping on LSD. Attention everyone...THIS IS WHY YOU SHOULD NOT DO DRUGS....THEY SERIOUSLY SCREW UP YOUR BRAIN!!!

No, but I'm pretty sure being peacfull does include politness. Of course, you may not agree, as you have prooven yourself unworthy of that ability in your post here. Look how wound up you are over my opinion. You don't see me cussing you out. Perhaps you realy do need to seek help with your drug problem. It seems to be affecting your ability to interact with others.

If you lack the ability to read and understand a post then again, I suggest you get help. Please from now on, refer to the quoted text then my text. I clearly Broke away from talking about his lack of peace by using the word....what was it....can you guess it....Anyways. As far as the rest of it, I was being honest. Perhaps hearing 13 yr old girls mentioning sex in a way that implies they are having sex doesn't bother you. It botherd me, so I asked her about it. She then peacfully replied and the matter is now in the clear and understandable. This goes to any of you questioning my right to ask. If I don't have the right to ask and care...what gives you the right to question me? Hypocrites.

Again, your post do not resemble that of someone wanting peace and love in their life. Your post more resembles that of a goth person crying "no one loves me" and "I dress this way to be different" while standing in a crowd of 30,000 other goth people dressed the same way you are. By the way, I'm 27. I'm sorry I did not conform to your ways and fill out all my information. I was trying to be a hippie by revolting against the "forum man".

You are right. I support helping others. I support soldiers over seas giving people a chance at the freedom they should have been born with. As a matter of fact, as discused on another topic here, I'll even support you and your family. I'll support your right to cry and complain. I'll take it one step further and let you know that I'll even fight in your place, so you can sit back smoke your drugs and try to hold on to the enlightenment you think you have.

Nope, I'm proud to say that I haven't. Though when I was 13 I did smoke the stalk off of one of those busy sharp plants with the white fuzzy stuff. Man that was a head rush there. I'm sure your parent's are proud of you. "So what is your son up to lately"...."Oh we are so proud of him...he is a drug addict!".


Ahhh, my lunar forest...

Can't stay off that dandwagon can you? Everyone notice how she failed to reply to anything else that was posted?

I hate to burst your bubble, but you conform to loads of stuff daily. Even in the hippie movement you conformed to someone elses ideas. You want to be different, that's fine, be different. But please quit acting like you aren't a conformist. We all are in some way or another.

Nathan11 I really don't care if you ignore me or not. These people here apparently have a problem with an outside opinion. That of wich does not conform to their ideas of right and wrong. Shame they call themselves hippies and yet act totaly different. I personaly thought the hippie movement was for peace and love. Apparently, I was wrong.

Sigh:

Actualy, prayer is required and called upon as noted in The Bible. Maybe your god requires that you be high on drugs to communicate with him..however, my God asks only that I talk to Him, and listen to Him through the Holy Spirit. As for the rest of your rubbish, well I have no clue where you are comming from or where you are heading. I have a realationship with God. It is not neccessary for me to use drugs of any kind to get a response from Him.

If a man rapes and kills your mother, what gives us the right to punnish him? Who is to say that that was an imoral act? As a matter of fact...what gives you the right to tell me what I can and can't say? Yeah, I figure you will need a while to reply to that one. Maybe msg this drugy here and see if he can communicate with his god and give you an inlightend reply.

When I was using, I wasn't telling anyone not to do drugs. I would have offered them to you so we could party together. Wise men learn from other mens mistakes, fools by their own. I was a fool at that time, and had to learn on my own the hard way. I am not a hypocrite for telling someone to stay awat from drugs. Had I been using and saying that then I would be. Please look up the definition so you can understand.

Yeah, my real father had that same idea. He used to love beating on my mother and myself. Then I was adopted and my uncle used to love putting his penis inside me. Yeah, someone should have let him keep doing that because he liked it right?

 

and to adress the rest of this dilusion...

Ahhh, my lunar forest... Can't stay off that bandwagon can you? Everyone notice how she failed to reply to anything else that was posted?
(just because she feels strongly against your opinion like myself, does not mean she’s ‘jumping on the band wagon’… it called agreeing on something)

I hate to burst your bubble, but you conform to loads of stuff daily. Even in the hippie movement you conformed to someone else’s ideas. (NO, I did not, again I’m not a hippie, hippies are a pseudo-enlightened stage of hedonistic enjoyment of nature and the body… but it can never be completely satisfying state of existence… however what I know is!… I have absolutely no fear of death, doesn’t mean I want to die of course, but when my time comes there will absolutely no fear, I can say that with complete confidence) You want to be different, that's fine, be different. But please quit acting like you aren't a conformist. We all are in some way or another. (everyone conforms to some level, this is always a given, we do have to live near each other)



Nathan11 I really don't care if you ignore me or not. These people here apparently have a problem with an outside opinion. That of wich does not conform to their ideas of right and wrong. Shame they call themselves hippies and yet act totaly different. I personally thought the hippie movement was for peace and love. Apparently, I was wrong. (it’s not pure peace and love you idiot… you obviously were never a ‘hippie’ because you would come to realize like we all do, at the end of the day were all human… being a hippie is not just a list of behavioral guidelines, it is a life philosophy, like the Chinese way of life is their philosophy…)



SHAME ON YOU FOR HAVING THE ARRAGOANCE TO THINK YOU REALLY KNOW WHAT A ‘HIPPIE’ IS, OR UNDERSTAND THE RICH PHILOSOPHY BEHIND IT. YOU’RE ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN AND WE’VE ONLY GOT STAINED GLASS WINDOWS…



Sigh:

Actualy, prayer is required and called upon as noted in The Bible. Maybe your god requires that you be high on drugs to communicate with him..however, my God asks only that I talk to Him, and listen to Him through the Holy Spirit. As for the rest of your rubbish, well I have no clue where you are comming from or where you are heading. I have a realationship with God. It is not neccessary for me to use drugs of any kind to get a response from Him. Of course drugs are not necessary to communicate with god, I only claim the proper ones make it much easier… trust me when I say I have felt the embrace of what you call “the holy spirit”… I would not lie about something so serious to me…



If a man rapes and kills your mother, what gives us the right to punnish him? Who is to say that that was an imoral act? (that man has crossed the line of respect the humans should have for all organisms! He has maliciously attacked your mother not only with the physical and sexual aggression but spiritually as well! He should be punished!!, how to go about doing that is an entire additional page long argument)As a matter of fact...what gives you the right to tell me what I can and can't say? (I’m not stopping you, I support you right to say it even if I hate what your saying, that’s why I don’t want everyone to start blocking you!!!) Yeah, I figure you will need a while to reply to that one. Maybe msg this drugy here and see if he can communicate with his god and give you an inlightend reply. (just an immature attack on MY PERSONAL BELIEFS… I didn’t say your beliefs were wrong, I just said mine were right. This is just the type of patronizing shit that I hear all the time... this is what causes all the contempt I have for you larvals, not even contempt anymore...more like sadness, I want to save you all but there is just not enough time in my life to make it happen.



So the fact that I KNOW I communicate with god makes me blasphemous? Guess who else was called blasphemous by society during his time… Why don't you just grab a stone…



Jesus said to the high priests upon storming the temple, "god is not an Israelite”. Well guess what “god is not an American either”.



When I was using, I wasn't telling anyone not to do drugs. I would have offered them to you so we could party together. Wise men learn from other mens mistakes, fools by their own. I was a fool at that time, and had to learn on my own the hard way. I am not a hypocrite for telling someone to stay awat from drugs. Had I been using and saying that then I would be. Please look up the definition so you can understand.



You are in the sense that, from what you write, you view drugs as inherently evil… which is the most ridiculous claim… like all things their potential for ‘bad’ is as strong as their ‘pontential for good’. You are not a hypricrate.. and I never said you were at least on this subject.



Yeah, my real father had that same idea. He used to love beating on my mother and myself. Then I was adopted and my uncle used to love putting his penis inside me. Yeah, someone should have let him keep doing that because he liked it right?



You must be a really sick fuck in real life… I’m feeling a real sense of pity for you. One last thing… I’m not a fucking ‘drugy’ (you can’t even spell it)! I’m an Existentialist, Philosopher, Tripper, Lover, and Spiritual Being and I live my life in peace knowing all that I need to know… Ever since my spiritual awakening I am 100 times closer to my friends, my family, my existence… I think you might even be a little jealous… I grew up catholic 16 years in the church, there is nobody that’s going to tell me anything new about Christianity… especially because modern day Christianity is probably thickly diluted by their own materialistic fetishes… Jesus was so heavily misunderstood!!! …but I gave up practicing religion that way, since you like to make all your metaphors disturbingly sexual(which is obviously a hang up of some sort for you) … you are having sex with the cosmos with a very very thick condom, I’m going at it au natural …



-PsDX

 

What is is exactly that makes you a "Real American"? Is it that you derive you opionons on life from the mainstream, you assimilate well? Because you are admently aginst change of consciousness or that you're just afraid that I really do know the way to speak with god and it is not a privelage exclusive to certain people. When you have spoken to god... has he ever spoken back?... is this a conversation or is it just you kneeling in a room talking to yourself? When it comes down to religion you're definatly on a placebo (with a placebo effect!).
You are extremely ethnocentric as well!!

You ignored my question: "If GOD were to speak to you... how could you imagine he would go about it?" Remember, I believe in the same god...

Leary Explains in detail the difficulty I'm having explaining the unexplainable to you:
"Most larvals live in terror of being seen as sinful or "bad." Constant reassurance is required to maintain the feeling of being socially approved. In communicating with larvals about sexual, philosophic, or ethical matters, one enters very dangerous terrain. It is almost impossible to discuss philosophy with yokels. Hypocrisy, unconscious motivation, irrational paradox, need for approval and fear-of-shame dominate every discussion of philosophy-religion. Larvals may be bored by and may tune-out Circuit 3 symbols which do not fit their imprints and conditioned networks. But Circuit 4 moral symbols or behaviors which are sensed as different trigger off responses of passion and even violence. Because of this philosophic sensitivity, yokel humans tend to avoid philosophic discussions.
This phobia can cause painful reactions when a post-larval attempts to discuss exo-psychology with a mundane [human].
[size=+1]The reasons for this philosophic phobia: [/size]
[size=+1]1.[/size] Yokels are ignorant about where life came from, where it is going and why. They are thus terrified by their mortality. Each larval has accepted a flimsy philosophy of life-and-death which SHe does not really believe. Thus the irritation and panic when this basic hypocrisy is threatened by a scientific discussion about life-origin and life destination.

"The Lutheran church has always been based on the Bible," explains Phil Beck, Production Manager of a local paint company and the superintendent of the Church's Sunday School. "If you start questioning it, where do you stop? If I have to have that much education to sit down and understand Genesis, then why did God let Luther put it in the people's language? At what point do I throw the whole mad mess out the door?" Time magazine

[size=+1]2.[/size] Yokels are robot-slaves to DNA. They blindly labor to perpetuate the species, to breed, to establish domestic arrangements for rearing young and to transmit cultural survival patterns. Any discussion which threatens to expose or question this robothood is extremely painful. The larval cannot tolerate the insight into uneasy areas of uncertainty.
[size=+1]3.[/size] Expression and inhibition of sexual behavior is charged with terror, because orgasm and sperm-egg transfer must be domesticated to provide for stable child rearing.

The word "Hippy" is a generic term for the first post-larval stages describing those who genetically (Zodiac type) , neurologically (imprint) or historically (hedonic/sub-cultures) get trapped in passive-receptive hedonic life styles. Transcendental masturbation.
The first post-Hiroshima generation has produced millions of Zen "Hippies" who have evolved from the mundane but do not realize that they are extra-terrestrial.

In communicating with larvals one must realize that discussions about life, death, philosophic ultimates, child-rearing, sexuality - are highly individualistic. Reactions to these topics are unpredictable, depending on the intimacy and safety of the situation. "

Sorry everyone, about the excessive length, but I wanted to attempt to drag out the entire agrument and just 'lay it all out on the table' so RA won't be able to respond with another pedandric argument about the symantics of someones post.

-PsDX

 

Look at you, being a hypocryite. I remeber you mentioning something to the fact that cutting someone down was wrong. Also, with you stating that you will not "acknowledge pointless bits", well, that's your opinion. I myself see your ranting and raving as insanity, the product of over dosing on drugs. You can argue all you want, I see in you where drugs alter your mind so much that you begin to believe what it is these drugs show you. Oh, and now that you showed us where you recieved your higher learning from, I now see as should everyone else that you in fact are a conformist. Conforming to this guys ideas and beliefs and making them your own. Most everything else you said I looked at with comic relief. Calling people larvals doesn't place you in a spot above them? From what I can tell, you are still a child growing up and doing what is natural for a teenager and rebelling. From what I can tell you are seeking attention that you didn't recieve but should have. I feel sorry for you. Everything else you said, well I disagree. The only thing left to point out is you still open your mouth and say something to me when I wasn't directing it to you.

I am a sick person because I was sexualy abused? The guy said clearly:

I was simply using more of my lifes expiriences to show him where he was flawed. I guess you would like me to appologize for my uncle raping me?

Now, to get this subject back on track. I voiced my opinions, others voiced theirs. Several points were good and made by other posters. I still disagree with several. Again I'll state that "the magic of the 60's" was just a way of living back then. You can still find people living their life in the same way. I personaly think that in the end you yourself are the one that decides if this "magic" is present in your life or not.

 

no no no... wrong idea. If you like it and you don't hurt anybody else.

When you use drugs , you don't hurt anybody else and should be able to do so in peace. On the other hand, sometimes people abuse them, and other people do get hurt, liked family and loved ones.... in which case I would not be in support of that persons drug habit.

If you hurt yourself, by living a sex, drugs, and rock & roll type lifestyle I got no problems with that. But when a person hurts other people's lives they have no right to do that, and that is a whole different story. But someone living that type of lifestyle within certain limits would normally not hurt anybody... except maybe themselves, wich is their own fault , their own choice, their own business. When your lifestyle becomes more then your own business and starts to really hurt the people around you... then obviously help is needed because you areaffecting other people and restricting ther freedom of choice.

Beating and raping hurt other people VERY BADLY! that is a very different subject , does not fall into this category, and is certainly not acceptable.


I rather enjoy having you here , RA , because you seem to be pretty reasonable and although I disagree with you on many things, I don't sense that you are really trying to attack anyone's beliefs here. It is always good to talk to someone with different points of view, because it makes me examine the things I believe. So thanks. I still disagree, but thanks anyway!

 

Thank you Real American. We need discussion, however, you have made your point, over and over and over and over and over again. You need to get a personal forum to continue your ranting and arguments with others here. You and another person have turned this into your own battlefield. This is interesting for a while but it gets a bit old. You need to look a bit further than the end of your nose.
You do not appear to think that others are entitled to their opinions. America, being (I think) for freedom of speech, the right to carry arms and "in god we trust", gives us ALL the right to say whatever we want and then shoot people who disagree, and to believe in the bible verbatim.

Whatever, dude. Just remember that the last people who listened to a bush ended up in the desert for 40 years.

 

I'm with you, g44!

 

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