The Magic of the 60s

my immaturity surfaced long ago. I just couldn't hold it back!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

~~~~~life is funny~~~~~~~~

 

magic in your heart is all you need...

 

in the 60's it was all new. new drugs a new style of music, new ideas and beliefs. you can't start a revolution with something that already happened. the problem is that we have seem to come so far advanced that no one is coming up with anything new. just building off of old news.

 

As a true Child of the 60's(born 1965)

In the 60's, we got only a brief glimpse of a wonderful future humanity could share.(The Beatles, The Doors, Andy Warhol, the wonder of the Moon Landing, Dr. King just to name a few). We also got a glimpse of hoow ugly humanity can be for little reason(Resistance to Vietnam only really took off in the early 70's).

We are now on the edge of a truly glorious future where the brief glimpse we got during the 60's turns into reality, or we descend into a never-ending war due to 9-11! The Beatles, The Doors, Andy Warhol, the Moon Landing, & Dr. King have been influencing us for decades now. But, on the other hand, conservatives have been allowed to force thier agenda down America's throats! It is so bad that half of the population really believes the crap handed to them from FOX NEWS without question and are set to vote permanent war into being this November.

We are now literally on the turning point of history, where the dream of the 60's will be realized or we will all needlessly be crushed under the boot of warmongers forever!

Let's get involved and stay involved!

BCNU

 

to the most controversial Republican man....

yehaaa hey man you were talkin' bout cocaine in the sixties some post ago...the cocaine became really popular for some musicians since 72-73 and for the rest of the population cocaine really started became popular in the end of the seventies ( disco = cocaine and it's not a coincidence)
So the white lines don't influence the sixties moovement ...it's a fact ...this drug is purely the drug of the kind of "Skid Row" "Def Leppard" "Duran Duran" etc... it's purely a 80's drug...and the result ?!

All Rock n' roll critics say that the 80's were the worst decade in artistic rock'n roll masterpiece...it's a drug of pure illusion ... the typical 80's thing was: "Am i the most beautiful man in this town" or "What's the last fashion...i can't be out of fashion...this is a question of life or death" ok it's a little "cliché" but the seventies and sixties people were more in search of their inner soul ...of what you've got inside of you... and not if your physical body is beautiful enough! ......yeahhh this is why those decades were real decades...

And you seems to dislike most of the 60's and 70's band partially 'cause of their large consumption of drugs. but take a look to Blink 182 ...Limp Bizkit ("behind blue eyes" is a cover of "the Who" don't forget it) and other actual bands they use to take a lot of drugs too ...even Aguilera & Beyonce is so much in love with their ego that they're probably takin a "scarface" mountain of cocaine ...

nb: thanx 4 readin' my approximative english
if only i can wrote in french ...

 

Learn to joke. Grow a sense of humor.
If that's too difficult, then fuck off.

I'm not ashamed of being 19, I think that I am more mature and can conduct myself way better than you can manage so, at least when I argue I do it with intelect instead of just retheroc.

-PsDX

 

psydex, have a good time in amsterdam. A very fun place to go. Don't fall in the dykes.
I do not miss taking drugs at all. Although I am not a very spriitual person, I find that I can lay back and close my eyes and listen to something like Beethoven's Fifth or Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon and be transported. I can see the beauty in so many things without having to get messed up. I think this comes with age maybe.
Your argument that god put mushrooms and other stuff there for the reason that we are supposed to obtain enlightenment does not hold water. If you believe this, you must also believe that god also gave us stuff like mad cow disease, aids, the common cold and the means to create nuclear explosions, these are of no benefit to anyone, unless as a means of population control. OR, do you think the things that are not to your liking were put here by Satan? In that case, maybe it was satan that but shrooms on earth to mess with our minds and make us more open to his wiles.
You are young and strong, you really do not need to do these drugs, you just like them, right?

Happy Fourth all you Americans. Being British, it is not a big holiday for me. In school we learned very little about the American Revolution, we went straight to the French revolution. Since coming to this country, I have learned more and think it was the right thing to do. I think the british needed a wake-up-call at the time. Not that is made any difference to their policies, however, it was time for change. ​

The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them.
Karl Marx

 

NO! WRONG! Facists force you to agree with whatever their agenda, I cannot force anyone to do anything. My only adgenda is to get people to pay attention to the keys to heaven on earth(with 'gods' permission, of course). You should be more clear on my argument before reacting like this.

The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing mankind he doesn't exist. What's the last place you look, where ever is most comfortable. It's because you don't know that the two often get in each others way... those things distract you from seeking truth (and inorder to keep you there and happy the give you a placebo religion). That doesn't mean you can't do all these things... you'd acheive a personal ballance, that makes YOU happy. Have you ever felt like all day in normal 'baseline/sober' life, it's okay... but something seems like it's missing? It's not that 'getting high' is missing, it's that contrast of consciousness has not even reveiled the relativity of reality to you yet. Contrast... it highlights existance... you must contrast your 'baseline' perspective aginst many stages of higher thought... In the end you'll achieve much more control over you 'baseline' reality by exploring slightly outside the standard one.

Do you want to know "GOD", or hear about 'god'? because I can assure you all your life you've only heard about him through a filter . Sorry, but church on sunday definatly won't cut it...

»I say that "sunshine daydreams" are a beuitiful and essencial part of life. Take even MDMA for example(I'm not claiming this is a sacrement) , a synthetic chemical. It causes an unadultered apperication for everyone around you which is not 'fake'... however the fact that you would certainly not be that sociable and lovie dovie to all these wankers without it, is what is 'fake' about the expirence. The emotions you are feeling are as real as sober emotions are, just cranked up!».

I'm glad you know that, If you learned to agree on this one you would understand where I am coming from with all this SpACe LoGiC but you gotta remember "things are not always as they seem". When you graduate high school you should go to amsterdam and get some REAL magic mushrooms. Until then however you're probably not ready (as I wouldn't have been either).

People like Real American are just concerned with turning out another consuming-coke-drinking-flag-waving-tax-paying-govenrment-authority-humping american blob , instead of hoping for a better more balanced future. Sacrements should be avaliable to all people... but, it is better to have a well developed knoledge-system to understand and analyze the expirence you are about to undergo (In other words, psychedelics are best left for earily adulthood).

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"psydex, have a good time in amsterdam. A very fun place to go. Don't fall in the dykes." - cheers, I'll do my best.
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Your argument that god put mushrooms and other stuff there for the reason that we are supposed to obtain enlightenment does not hold water. If you believe this, you must also believe that god also gave us stuff like mad cow disease, aids, the common cold and the means to create nuclear explosions, these are of no benefit to anyone, unless as a means of population control. OR, do you think the things that are not to your liking were put here by Satan? In that case, maybe it was satan that but shrooms on earth to mess with our minds and make us more open to his wiles. Ah...well if you really want to put it that way than yes, Satan(the cosmic negative energy), 'creates' all of those 'nessacary evils'. The cosmos is about balance(remember Satan and God are, by the christian church's own admission, just symbols). All of those "bad" things are there to keep us (population too) balanced. again contrast is key. How we address mad cow, aids, the common cold... are all sociataly based. "IMAGINE" if our socity instead of being funded on materilism and self intrest... was based on achiving a balance in all things... religion, social intrests, species intrests ... all functioning on a higher plane of thought...

For anyone who feels that they did not take away anything from psychedelics... all I can say is to try again and maybe if you approach it like less of a 'movie' and more of a philosophy session you might be supprised how many different ways you can see any one thing or idea.


"You are young and strong, you really do not need to do these drugs, you just like them, right?" Yes and no. Spiritually I do...I like them very much and I believe that even as I age, from time to time I will return just to remind myself of the depth of that alternate perspective... and try to apply all I know(my "knoledge system") to that perspective and see if I don't learn even more that I did when I was young. I'm certainly not a mushroom head... although I do love my cannabis.


Now if you'll excuse me... I have this rather large hash block to attend to...

-PsDX

 

Wait, God did put mushrooms here for our enlightenment.

 

thats apart of a bill hicks act... something like'see i think mushrooms were put here to push along evolution, not the most popular idea'

 

Mushrooms promote good eyesite....

 

Well, aparently your itelect pills aren't working anymore. Maybe you should up the dossage. From www.dictionary.com[/url : [b]No e...st I just made had several inteligent points.

 

Again you are claiming I was Delirious and not accurately comprehending what I was experiencing. You are also claiming that I know little about a drug experience, which I can assure you is simply not the case. What makes you think I don’t “respect” ‘god’ just because I type the human word a certain way, if you knew god this would make sense to you, and the word would become rather meaningless, as all words are…

Again… Real American thinks that I am saying “you need to use Ethnogens(natural psychedelics) to talk to god”…. When I’m actually saying, “you can use plants and fungi that were created by the same creater/force that created us, to come closer to understanding all things, by the ‘grace of god’ of course”. Do you NEED drugs to know god? NO. Do (certain) natural psychedelics reveal a world of personal religion and inner/outer space that is so raw and beautiful, PEOPLE ARE AFRAID of it. Christianity never lets you get close enough to the void. When I type GOD and you type GOD we have 98% different images in our head of what it is we are referring to. I only draw parallels to Christianity as a means of helping you understand extremely complex and abstract ideas. When I worship, there is not bullshit in the way.

You will probably have a little “American drone” of a child until they reach young adulthood and realize that just because you were born a couple decades earlier doesn’t mean you’ve made any further progress in unraveling the human mystery. You just took the TAINTED word of others(humans that is, not god).

You think a man name “Jesus” will return to earth and bring about the rapture? Give me a fucking break. If we, as a society, encountered a man like Jesus today… we would have him locked in a mental institution. I firmly believe that all Judeo-Christian views of the world is again the result of ethnogeny use! Go look it up in ‘your bible’ first page says the man may use all plants and animals… ALL=EVERY ONE, this includes mushrooms and cannabis. Moses and the Israelites ate MANNA, the bible description is word for word accurate account of how to locate and consume psilocybes.

Well, fair enough, I didn’t properly explain myself so I can’t be too surprised this is where you took your shot. God = Simple of polar pure energy +… Devil = Symbol of polar evil energy -….. Positive and Negative… their two forces balance the universe and run through every fiber. I know this I’ll piss you off but, there is just as much ‘devil’ as there is ‘god’ in each of us. Every now and then we see striking example of each one manifesting… just like humans mushrooms have just much potential for good as evil.

What do you think the chances are, that political powers (i.e. Romans, Kings of England) wrote whatever they chose into and out of the bible… and obscured meaning during translations… ect… WHY IS THIS HARD FOR YOU TO BELIEVE?

God doesn’t plan everyone’s life. You should know that. Again, by the time you are old enough ethnogenic sacraments should hardly be necessary, if ever. By the time you old you’re supposed to be practiced enough to experience his grace with out any outside help (and this means other peoples specifically!!!).

People are more dangerous than drugs. Drugs tell each other ‘you don’t want to mess with those humans, dodgy bunch’.

Yes. That organism is human beings. God did not “ZAP” mushrooms into existence because we needed them to talk to him… duh!... god creates out of probability and balance… mathematics are simply an entire study to figure out how, IN HUMAN PERSPECTIVE, god arranges things. The point I’m getting at is “no god did not ‘create’ mushrooms because humans needed them”, they arose (EVOLVED! Form “gods will”) alongside humans because humans can benefit from them.

I think it is I, whom has made several intelligent points. I can tell you’ve given all of these ideas of existence little to no unrestarined thought.

One word. Metaprograming.

-PsDX

 

To the people who say we can't bring back the magic because everyone today is conformist and brainwashed:

What about all the people the hippies of the 60s had to overcome? Puritans "Oh my god, her skirt's above the ankle!"

If the hippie movement could grow with them around, it can grow again. Keep the faith. I'll soon be cirulating peace flyers. I'll keep some in the glove compartment and whenever I go somehwere, I'll set them on the tables, or tack them up on bulletin boards. Every little bit helps. If it only reaches one person, then it's all worth it. Think of how many people that person could reach, and how many each of them could reach?

My theory is that the hippie movement started with one guy (or girl) in san fransisco. This one guy, he makes some friends, maybe some who are a bit open-minded. He feeds them his ideas of peace, love, and equality. they agree with him, and they start spreading this to their friends. It starts as a small cult, growing bit by bit until it's a recognizable group of people.

But it keeps growing, soon becoming a sort of other class - there's the working class, the rich coots, and the hippies. Soon they've got the majority of san fransisco on their side. Now they start to travel. They go east, spreadking the love to big cities like new york and boston. And so it travels throughout the entire united states, soon giving birth to a movement in europe. It spread all over the world, and for a few years everyone as all for love and peace.

I've read several places that the success of the hippie movements was due to the fact that the establihment wasn't ready for them. That's true, and they aren't ready for us now. LET'S STORM THE COUNTRY WITH PEACE AND LOVE AGAIN!!! IT'S OUR CHOICE! WE CAN DO IT!

 

I'm not sure... they seem pretty ready and pretty scared of any new movement....

But i'll take your word for it...

~~~~~~peace~~~~~~

 

Nalancer- well you just described the merry pranksters there. except they didn't do any of the marching or anything.


if you want to have a peace revolution then we better act fast cause hip-hop is doing about the equivolent now of rock-and-roll in the 60's. its spreading to all facets of the youth and media. the older generation is against it, parents are outraged that there children are listening to it and falling into that hip-hop lifestyle. it has produced fashions that are shocking the older generation and parents when they see there children wearing them. it has very controvercial lyrics and the youth are following and trying to emulate the stuff they hear in these songs. rappers have about the reckless status of a rockstar. so the revolution is now!...or we wait another twenty years until something knew has completely taken over and hope that its good.

 

wildfire you are exactly right.what you said about hip-hop. and I'm scared. what are we going to do?? I mean, rock was about something. Ask a young rock & roll-er (like me ) what rock means, what it's about, why it's important, and we can go on for hours. However, when i ask someone what hip-hop / rap music is about, why it's important, what it means to them, i usually dont get much. I dunno, it could just be the people Im talking to and not the music itself.... but I sure as hell cant get much meaning except, "let's shoot eachother. and fuck hot chicks." oh well.... kinda outta my control, really.


I shudder to think rap being the next rock & roll ..... hahaha P.Diddy the next Bob Dyaln.... ooooo that wasn't even funny. sorry. bad joke.

only time will tell where the state of the world goes from here but damnit i wish i could be more optimistic about it.

maybe its me......

~~~~~wah~~~~~

 

Real American, allow me to ask this. Because you view natural (and not alike) drug-induced states of mind as unnatural, why do many native people around the world have shaemans that consume large amounts of them to learn how to heal their people? It usually works is what's so crazy about it; but can you really say that a people's way of life is wrong if they use a drug to help preserve it?

 

cant we all just get along?! lol


the thing about it is that there are no really good rock songs anymore. there aren't any with a really catchy tune or a really good guitar riff or lyrics that you can just randomly quote. its all just noise. hip-hop, even if you don't like it, ya gotta admit that they've got some good beats in some of those songs. and the lyrics, whether you like it or not, there is at least a line to the song that sticks in your head.

 

Ah, you said it. I was listening to the Eagle's Hotel California, and wondering why it was such a good song, it's not the lyrics, and then came the guitar solo!!! You never hear guitar anymore!!!! We need more music in our "music"!!!!! At least, that's what I think.