the Jews return to Israel

Who else shares your belief? The answer: No one... because it is based on your own understanding and not off of what God has spoken in His written words.

You are the crazy one my friend who relies merely on special revelations of a generic god.





Jesus said, I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER BUT THROUGH ME

Was Jesus a liar... YES or NO?

Jesus also states, I and the Father are ONE

Again, was Jesus lying here?

 

God is a jew, he gave us life and then asks for it back plus interest.

 

Last time I checked... Bible's were in libraries... give it a read.

All your screwed up theology that is based off your own religion can be corrected by reading the Bible.

"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,"

2 Timothy 3:16

 

I've got a few at home.

You don't read my posts. If you read them, you would realise that I constantly quote the bible when writing to you. In fact, the post you just rejected had some quotes from the bible.

The verse you quoted? I was thinking about it last night in context with you, how I am forced to use the bible to correct you because you will ignore everything else. Apparently, you even ignore the bible. You are disobedient and unfit for doing anything good because you ignore the teachings that you claim to follow and "teach".

I write this for you, but I don't know if it will help.

 

Yes, in this case. There are older religions (such as Judaism) that taught of God. In fact, God teaches of God.

No. You just don't understand what is meant by that statement.

 

As long as he lacks faith in God, he will fear and reject many truths in his attempt to hold on to God. When he gains true faith, he will know longer fear losing God, or fear that other souls will be lost to God.

 

The prophecies of the Old and New Testaments are valid across time. This has nothing to do with selective manipulation, nor do the prophecies have anything to do with the Old Covenant or New Covenant. You really should take some time to study both Books. Both the New Testament and the Old Testaments speak of the end times. Both Books speak of the same events. And both Books are in agreement.

 

What you don't buy into is the truth. Much of the Bible can be proven today, and if you did even a little homework you would see this. Jesus Christ is the God that changes hearts and minds for the good. Religion is man made, where as the Bible is inspired by God. This is why the Book writes history before it happens. The East Gate prophecy is but one example of truth you must ignore. If you consider all the prophecies, you will understand that a long time ago, someone knew much of the history of the world before it happened. And from where I'm standing, only God knows the future. And only God's Book could contain this kind of truth.

 

The God that Cat follows is a wolf in sheep's clothing. He tries to westernize his religion trying to portray it as a peaceful loving religion. But how many muslim missionaries do you see? Well unless you consider those who strap bombs to themselves and blow up Jew's in the name of Allah. And don't tell me they are extremist because they are staying true to what the Koran tells them to do. Cat here is not. He has diluted his religion in efforts to make it look more appealing to the world. But that is like making war apealing to a pacifist. If you by into his lie, then you are the one that is easily brain washed.

 

True... but these Christian extremists that you talk about DO NOT follow the Bible. Where as the Islam extremist follow what is in their text. It is the ones that seem peaceful are also the ones that are far from what the Koran states.

 

True

 

Quit using that as your scapegoat for every argument... Your arguments are always against the church and Christian people who are flawed... YEs alll people are flawed including Christians. We screw up just like everyone else.

If a Christian thinks they are holier than someone else then they are not living according to the Bible.

With the screw ups of the church and people who label themselves Christians aside, can you find a flaw in the one who we strive to live like--Jesus?

 

I think JD4U is Campbell's natural son. Not sure, but I think Campbell mentions JD4U's mother sometimes. Campbell, are you JD4U's dad?

 

You don't agree with God or the bible. If you really believed in God, you wouldn't foolishly believe that the only thing God gave man to lead man to God is the bible. It's your lack of faith in God that is the main issue here, the secondary issue is your fallacious interpretation of the bible (as we see a little later in this post).

Which is exactly what you are doing when you incorrectly interprete the bible, or claim lies to be truth.

"They brought to the Pharisees the man who had been blind. 14Now the day on which Jesus had made the mud and opened the man's eyes was a Sabbath. 15Therefore the Pharisees also asked him how he had received his sight. "He put mud on my eyes," the man replied, "and I washed, and now I see."
16Some of the Pharisees said, "This man is not from God, for he does not keep the Sabbath."
But others asked, "How can a sinner do such miraculous signs?" So they were divided. "

--OR--
"At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick some heads of grain and eat them. 2When the Pharisees saw this, they said to him, "Look! Your disciples are doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath."
3He answered, "Haven't you read what David did when he and his companions were hungry? 4He entered the house of God, and he and his companions ate the consecrated bread—which was not lawful for them to do, but only for the priests. 5Or haven't you read in the Law that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple desecrate the day and yet are innocent? 6I tell you that one[a] greater than the temple is here. 7If you had known what these words mean, 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice,'[b] you would not have condemned the innocent. 8For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath." "

 

The difference is the Koran supports the killing of the inocent in the name of Allah, the Bible does not. And this is why you see so many Moslems straping bombs on their bodies.

 

Here are the only 2 occurences of the word innocent in the koran:

And whoever commits a fault or a sin, then accuses of it one innocent, he indeed takes upon himself the burden of a calumny and a manifest sin.

So they went on until, when they met a boy, he slew him. (Musa) said: Have you slain an innocent person otherwise than for manslaughter? Certainly you have done an evil thing.

Koran says it is evil to kill an innocent person. Interesting, huh? Doesn't the bible say something similar, yet there were the Salem witch trials, inquisition, etc.?

They kill for the same reason(s) Christians do. They lack faith that God will take care of things or they enjoy killing people.

 

Obviously someone has never read the Qu'ran.

"And fight in the way of Allah those who fight you, but trangress not the limits. Truely, Allah likes not the transgressors." 2:190

"O you who believe! Endure and be more patient (than your enemy) and guard your territory by stationing army units permanently at the places from where the enemy can attack you, and fear Allah, so that you may be successful" 3:200

"Permission to fight is given to those (ie believers in Islam) who are fighting them (disbelievers) because they (believers) have been wronged, and surely Allah is able to give them (believers) victory. Those who have been expelled from their homes unjustly because they said:Our lord is Allah.For it had not been that Allah checks one people by means of another, monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques, wherein the name of Allah is mentioned much would surely, have been pulled down. Verily, Allah will help those who help Him. Truely, Allah is All-Strong, All- Mighty" (btw Allah is arabic lets break it down. Al-Lah. Lah=god , Al=the, Allah=The God) 22:39-22:40

Jihad is strictly a defensive war and the Prophet peace and blessings be upon him forbade killing of the innocent and the killing of women and children. Suicide is also strictly prohibited.

Now, the reason we have so many suicide bombers today is because, thanks to the christian self fulfilled prophacy 5 million palestinians were driven out of there homes and millions have been living in the biggest concentration camp in the world, the occupied gaza strip and the west bank. Now, lets roleplay. You have been living in a refugee camp in the gaza stip your whole life which does not exceed more than, lets say, 15 years. Your father has been arrested several times by the israeli army and your younger brother of 12 years of age was shot in the neck for throwing stones at the worlds most powerful tank. You live in poverty with 50% of the population not having a job and not allowed to leave the camp and start a life elsewhere. Recently your cousin is also shot by the second (technologically israelis army is right behind americas) most powerful army in the world. Now, your friend has a pistol, but of course the israeilis are fitted with full bulletproof armor so thats no good. The existance you live leaves you no hope of having a career of a family and you lack the weapons to attack your oppressors. Enter the mind of the suicide bomber. Some other facts about the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. Ramadan 1994 a jewish settler walked into the Ibrahim Mosque in Hebron (very deep inide the palestinian side of the armistance line btw) and while muslims were worshipping God in the month that fighting is PROHIBITED he opened fire with an automatic rifle and killed 50 some men women and children. He was not a member of the israeli army. Settlers carry automatic weapons freely inside the territories. They have the right to kill. After the Hebron massacre suicide bombings switched targets from military to civilian. heres something else interesting. The first bomb maker for the Palestinians, Yeyha Ayyash was a graduate of Beir Zeit University in the west bank. He applied to the ISRAELIS for a visa so he could find work in Jordan and escape the chaos of the region. He was turned down. No links to terrorist organizations, no previous crime record, no nothing. Kept inside the cage of the territories.

I am not agreeing with suicide bombers at all. Suicide is a cowards way out. But, I do understand the mindset of a suicide bomber and hope you do too.

Salamz

 

Surely your not saying the Jewish Restoration is not a self fulfilled prophecy?

 

Yeah with all these "coincidences" you have more faith than I do...