The Horrors of christianity

Yes, but in all this you still fail to recognize that you are attempting to present your interpretations/conclusions as fact.

You say you are interested in the facts of the subject and want to engage in a scholarly exchange of ideas.
Problem is most people interested in honest research and discussion don't start the conversation by being derogatory and dismissive of the topic matter from the start.
I had already pointed out in detail why your initial post was more a "trolling" than anything serious, sadly Meagain thought it necessary to delete a lot of posts that explicitly pointed out the errors in your methodology.

You then make the comment that
"We are all lay people when it comes to this topic. No one here has yet professed to any extended education as a scholar on the subject."

Uhhmm, no, thedope mentioned he has been studying the subject for over 45 years, I mentioned I have over 30 years of study under my belt, (may have been in the OT thread) and you are really blind if you don't pick up that Okiefreak is formerly educated in the subject, and OWB has a couple few decades of learning that he is drawing on.

YOU are the one here with no education on the subject.

You think 4 years of study with a RABBI better qualifies you on the subject of Christianity than thedopes' 45 years, my 30, Okie's education and OWB's practicing the religion for decades?

I also have been formerly educated and trained on how to conduct research and experiments.
I have been formerly trained on how to develop a workable hypothesis,
how to properly construct the research/experimental parameters to account for any untestable variables and focus on only those variable being tested for.
I know how to properly construct and word the operational definition for research/experiments.
I know how to accurately interpret data and also account for variations in data collection and PERSONAL BIAS.

Having that education is why I immediately pointed out why/how your entire premise was flawed from the outset, because I DO know what I'm talking about.

You obviously do not posses any education or training in HOW to go about conducting research.

Concerning the mention of psychedelic experiences, obviously went sailing over your head.

Then in all your ranting about how Christianity "stole" from Judaism (completely failing to comprehend the connection) and altered text, etc.,etc, you never consider the flip side, do you?

I wonder did your Rabbi mentor ever mention or did you ever consider that the Jews actually had a lot more to lose than did the early Christians and the Jews had/have as much or more incentive to lie and distort the meaning of Biblical text than the Christians do/did.

Of course you didn't because all your opinions on the topic have been shaped by your Rabbi mentor, whether you realize it or not.
Your bias is so obviously and patently "Jewish" I wonder if you are celebrating Hanukkah.

You are a troll and a joke, that is why I never really engaged you seriously.

 

I see your problem, my use of the word “my”. You seem to assume that means that I have my own religion, based on my perceptions but no, all it means is that it is the religion I follow and if you would read it with the rest of what you quoted, you would see that the persons that determine what a Christian is, are God and Jesus and not you, me or historians. And so what you say here;

Is not based on what I said and show that you are still not trying to listen to what is said to you.

 

I only agreed with the fact that they may have felt like Christians but feeling like a Christian does not make you a Christan. As I have repeatedly pointed out, it is not individual viewpoints and experience that make one a Christian, it is God and Jesus who decide who is a Christian and if you had read the cited Scriptures you would have read, Jesus pointing out that many would believe, feel, think and have the viewpoint that they were Christians and call him Lord but Jesus would say to them that he never knew them and for them to get away from him and called them workers of lawlessness. Workers of lawlessness, sounds like a good description of those you call Christian doesn't?

Okay, if you say so.

Well I will agree to the “ad nauseum” part but since you will not except the facts presented to you, I was interested in what you would except as proof of the matter.
The simple fact is Christians are not to murder and are to love their enemies and so that makes it a simple fact that a person who murders and hates his enemies just is not a Christian, no matter what they believe, feel, think or call themselves.

I didn't use drugs to "experience" what I have said here so I don't know what in the world you are talking about, at least in my case.

If one wants the facts they go to the source. When it comes to the facts of what it means to be a Christian, the Bible is the source and not your historians and so it is you that has neglected the facts.

As for the "quoting of Scriptures" you’re ignoring the context, as you have a habit of doing. The context is the rules of the forum and the reason the "no quote" rule was put in place is that people were cut and pasting long portions of the Bible and Skip said that all that was needed was citing where the Scripture can be found, which is what I try to do.

Interesting, people could write but they couldn’t read and your facts, your proof of this, where are they? Or are you just stating your opinion?

Well most of what you say is correct. The problem is you came into this discussion with a preconceived idea of what a Christian is and although it has been pointed out to you what a Christian is from the only reliable and authoritative source there is, the Bible, you continue have blind faith that only you are correct.

Oh and by the way, blind faith is not a Christian quality.

Sorry to see you go but you leave as you came, with the same biased opinion.