The founding fathers were slave owners

Empty quotin'

Actually no, also going to say the Kohl's which came up in my area is basically 98% white while the area is more certainly not 98% white

 

You're just jealous

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Yo that's not fair, you're 62 it says, I have a lot of knowledge still to gain in my life, despite the fact I act like an arrogant know it all sometimes. I can't compete with that much of living yet.

 

Evidently a misunderstanding. I was kidding.

Actually, some of you 20 somethings surprise me with your understanding and knowledge. Age does not presuppose wisdom and knowledge and youth does not denote lack of them.

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Oh, in that case, well, some of us 20 year olds try to keep up with world events!

 

*I am not an expert in either world events or 20 year olds, please regard everything I say as ramblings*

 

so were a lot of other world leaders at the time. so what? white americans were the first people period to outlaw slavery. not only this, but there was ahuge abolitionist sentiment amongst southern protestants at the time. the south actually took steps to outlaw the importation of new slaves from africa too, meanwhile the north still had them coming in on boats. but if we're gonna start pointing fingers, let us acknowledge the fact that slavery is still a thriving industry in africa. i think it's cruel and unusual to force anyone into labor without pay. the only way i could see making someone work as a slave would be as punishment for a serious crime they commited or to pay off a debt of some sort. but why should christians or whites or southerners be the only ones to take flack for it? when jews and muslims have been involved in slavery too.

 

Because we did it very recently and made an institution out of it. Slavery is technically illegal in places where it is still practiced. It's not an actual government institution that parts of their country are willing to secede to try to preserve. Slavery in the United States was on a larger scale and lasted longer than any other western nation, both literally western in terms of hemisphere except for Brazil, and western in terms of the first world.

Not to mention the "well we did it but they're doing it too" argument is the most terrible defense for anything.

 

it sure as hell isn't when the largest targets of your blame are the founding fathers.

 

Actually the OP in this thread about the fact a good deal of the founding fathers were in fact against slavery, the title is a joke on a cliche saying. I wonder how the founding fathers would've felt about slavery if they knew the explosion in slavery that would happen after the invention of the cotton gin.

Not to mention why slavery is such a big issue here is it just didn't end come 1865. Sharecropping kept debt slavery basically in place for decades, Jim Crow laws kept blacks segregated and as second class citizens for another 100 years. There's still a whole generation alive that remembers klan killings, colored waiting rooms, being hosed down by the police while being called ******, having to go to separate schools, ect.

 

blaming christianity and white people for things that existed before christianity existed. how politically correct of you! i sure as hell didn;t see anyone else take the first steps in doing so

 

and to this day people intentionally self segregate for the most part. black with black and white with white and so on and so forth. if you want to know what real slavery is, look to the industry of banking and usury. all it does is sell debt

 

I don't know where you live but people don't self segregate here, if anything they do by class.

And having debt is not slavery. No one forces you to take out a loan.

 

Fact: Some of the founding fathers were slave owners.
Relevance: ?

 

Lingering social effects of slavery and Jim Crow laws, remember this was only 40 years ago, the 1968 presidential election. Counties in green voted for George Wallace who's main platform was keeping segregation in place and opposing the recently passed civil rights/voting rights bills.

 

Slavery existed in North America long before the first Africans arrived at Jamestown in 1619. For centuries, from the pre-Columbian era through the 1840s, Native Americans took prisoners of war and killed, adopted, or enslaved them. Indian warriors captured a wide range of enemies, including Africans, Europeans, and other Indians. Yet until the late eighteenth century, age and gender more than race affected the fate of captives.

 

Impressive.

 

And the lingering social effects today, 42 years later, are?

 

Substantially less, you can't fully legislate equality when social views don't match it, but you can help it along. The south held near the same views for over 100 years after the civil war, less than 20 years after forced integration and civil rights legislation many people took a 180 on their views.

 

How Texas' School Board Tried to Pretend Slavery Never Happened and Why Your Kid's School May Be Next


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bryan-monroe/how-texas-school-board-tr_b_586633.html