The Donald Trump Score Card

Why can't conservatives grasp the term illegal when going after campaign finance and engaging in obstruction of justice?

 

They grasp it fine. Try them. Convict them. On both sides.

 

But that doesn't happen. White collar criminals are generally handled with kid gloves, while the ghetto dwellers get the book thrown at them. The decision to treat a refugee crisis punitively instead of humanely reflects the same "lock em' up" mentality as the conservative "war on drugs":Inhumane and ineffective. Treating this as a standard case of law enforcement against "criminals" ("Children will not be housed with parents that are under criminal investigation.") displays a lack of judgment and compassion of mind boggling proportions.

 

agree 100%, and this double standard bugs the hell out of me.

 

Sessions is now back in trump's good graces.

 

I'd like to see trump ride the nose cone of a rocket into space, ala Slim Pickens.

 

Your initial post asked why "the left" was unconcerned. Now its "the fringe leftists", whoever they are. Better question: why aren't you concerned--or have shown your concern for the first time on this occasion? Are you concerned only when you see an opportunity to score propaganda points and deflect attention from a humanitarian crisis by shifting to another issue which is much harder to solve. Once again, the favorite fallacy of relative privation: how dare we be concerned about an immediate policy of mass separation of children from families when there are convicted felons who have been separated from their kids because of victimless crimes. (In the case of the felons, there are often at least other family members around to look after the kids--an important distinction.) Purusing the websites of the "fringe right", or even Fox and the mainstream right, there doesn't seem to be much sympathy for the family dysfunction caused by the war on drugs. Quite the opposite!

 

Again this isn't some new law or circumstance. Trump is merely using this to accomplish his illegal immigrant crackdown. Yeah it sucks. Don't attempt to enter illegally and things may go better for them and their families.

And yes in America, unfortunately, justice seems to be based on who can afford the better attorney. That isn't unique to a Republican. I don't like it either. That is why I don't do a thing to upset a cop, a store owner etc. Unless I can afford the cost of a legal proceeding. If a cop tells me to stop and sit down, I stop and sit down. Even if he is wrong. Otherwise do I want to spend $5K for the minimal of defense to argue if I should be sitting down or not? I would choose not personally.

 

Trump doubles down as anger grows over child separation policy
US officials scramble to defend policy of separating families at the border after audio of screaming children surfaces.
June 19, 2018

Trump doubles down as anger grows over child separation policy

excerpt:

"Last week, a Department of Homeland Security (DHS) spokesman said that nearly 2,000 minors were separated from 1,940 adults who crossed the US border without documents between April 19 and May 31.

Administration officials say they are simply following the law, however, there are no statutes that mandate separating children from families at the border.

On Monday, DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen faced a number of questions from White House reporters over the practice. She again blamed the policy on politicians, saying that "Congress alone can fix it."

However, critics point out that the administration can simply end the "zero-tolerance" approach. Rights groups accuse Trump of using the issue as a way to pressure Democrats into pushing through immigration reform legislation that includes funding for his border wall on the US-Mexico border."

 

Secret audio reveals the cries of children separated from their parents by U.S. border agents
By Ginger Thompson
Mon., June 18, 2018

Secret audio reveals the cries of children separated from their parents by U.S. border agents | The Star

excerpt:

"The desperate sobbing of 10 Central American children, separated from their parents one day last week by immigration authorities at the border, makes for excruciating listening. Many of them sound like they’re crying so hard, they can barely breathe. They scream “Mami” and “Papa” over and over again, as if those are the only words they know.

The baritone voice of a Border Patrol agent booms above the crying. “Well, we have an orchestra here,” he jokes. “What’s missing is a conductor.”"

 

trump also wants to limit legal immigration.

 

Yes, and he wants Democrats to support it--and his wall. That seems to be part of his "blame it on the Democrats" campaign--trying to make them a scapegoat for his own barbaric policy and pressure them into endorsing his grand scheme for immigration. What chutzpah! Like a kidnapper holding children for ransom and saying to the parents "What kind of monsters are you for not agreeing to my terms and allowing your kids to remain in the hands of a monster like me."
The DACA gambit all over again!

 

Bush didn't care about it. No republican does. However, medical marijuana made the greatest progress to date while GW was in office. Not because he advocated it, but because he was indifferent. Obama should have done SOMETHING. But he didn't.

 

Is your lengthy suggestion that the US doesn't send any aid money or resources overseas?

 

The latest ploy by Trump lackeys to try to defend the child separation policy is Fox Laura Ingraham's comparison of the detention centers to "summer camp". That analogy didn't sit well with some commentators.Fox News host Laura Ingraham absurdly compares immigrant detention centers to 'summer camps' for kids Steve Levitan Joins Seth MacFarlane In Denouncing Fox After Controversial Laura Ingraham Detention Centers Comment
Fox News doubles down on caging kids as 'essentially summer camps'

 

But see post 8232. He did as much as he could.

 

If Trump was an actual republican I might agree that they are in the driver's seat. But he's not. He chose that party because they would be the easiest to beat first to get the nomination. After that, wasting the Clinton machine was all too simple for him. Trump is there because he knew how to beat the establishment at their own games.

It's interesting how leftists are all about history when it suits their agenda, like bagging on Americans (especially the white ones). But facts are facts, the democrat party has led this nation down some very dark paths and whistled Dixie the whole way.

 

And you seem to be ignoring the fact that it was Bill Clinton who lied about supporting marijuana legalization to garner the youth vote. It worked brilliantly I have to admit. Especially playing his sax on Arsenio Hall. Once in office the Clinton administration drove simple possession arrests to a record 3/4 million per year, destroying the lives of youth voters by disqualifying them for student loans. FUCK the Clintons.

Also, the crack/powder thing was driven by black leaders and clergy who saw wealthy crack barons destroying their communities. They demanded the government lock them up for a LONG time so the communities could recover. I remember that time well, it had nothing to do with any desire to lock black guys up for more time than white guys.

 

You seem to like slapping labels onto people. Calling me a "conservative" is a joke. Unless you're trying to toss it my way as a childish insult of some sort. Either way, I can't take you seriously when you stoop to this kind of personalizing shit.

 

My point was it isnt only the fringe left concerned over this. It seems the majority of Americans are against separating children from their parents

I dont know what your point is with the pictures, no one here has denied that detention centers existed under Obama. Thats not the issue. The issue is no previous administration has separated families and inflicted trauma upon children in order to score political points