The Donald Trump Score Card

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by MeAgain, Nov 15, 2016.

  1. egger

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    Secret Service has been having meetings to discuss a course of action should Trump end up in jail during the trial.


    Secret Service prepares for if Trump is jailed for contempt in hush money case

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    "Trump's lawyers said prosecutors have not proven that posts Trump made on social media criticizing Cohen and Daniels were willful violations of the gag order, telling Merchan that the former president was defending himself from attacks by the likely witnesses."
     
  2. ~Zen~

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    Most probably their idea.
     
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    They will start by decorating his jail with a chandelier, gold painted bars, and a window where KFC gets delivered regularly along with adderal tablets and diapers.
     
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  4. egger

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    9:00 in video: Trump describes using UV and injecting chlorine into the body to try to treat Covid.

    Dr. Deborah Birx squirms in her chair while Trump blathers.


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    That was funny....."is that right, don't you think? Yeah, inject bleach or UV light...right" Here is our stable genius. Damn COVID, you had your chance with him........
     
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  7. egger

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    Nixon v. Fitzgerald - Wikipedia

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    "In a 5–4 decision, the Court ruled that the President is entitled to absolute immunity from legal liability for civil damages based on his official acts. The Court, however, emphasized that the President is not necessarily immune from criminal charges stemming from his official or unofficial acts while he is in office.[5]

    The Court noted that a grant of absolute immunity to the President would not leave him with unfettered power. It stated that there were formal and informal checks on presidential action that did not apply with equal force to other executive officials.[6]

    The Court observed that the President was subjected to constant scrutiny by the press and noted that vigilant oversight by Congress would also serve to deter presidential abuses of office and to make the threat of impeachment credible. It determined that other incentives to avoid presidential misconduct existed, including the desire to earn re-election, the need to maintain prestige as an element of presidential influence, and the traditional concern for his historical stature.[7] "
     
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    During the Nixon era of the 1970's. such a claim by the Supreme Court had some merit, but not for the present-day mentality of the GOP members of Congress. They refuse to hold Trump accountable for anything and they support his actions no matter how unethical or criminal. The RNC recently turned over the GOP to Trump altogether by making Whatley the chair and Trump's daughter-in-law co-chair.

    The Supreme Court needs to visit its 1982 decision and revise it for the current era.
     
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  9. egger

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    The Supreme Court was also wrong about that in 1982 in the context of not looking prospectivily and realizing that the mentality in the U.S. could change.

    Trump and the GOP have used Trump's insurrection as a selling point for him to be reelected. He's portrayed as a victim whose supposed election win was allegedly stolen from him.

    The mentality of the Congress and voting public has changed greatly since 1982. The checks and balances that the SC opined in 1982 are essentially gone.

    That leaves other venues for holding a president or former president accountable, such as civil and criminal cases which can't happen if the SC says a president has absolute immunity.
     
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    Devin Nunes, the CEO of Trump's media company, wants Congress to investigate what he claims is manipulation of Trump's stock, such a naked short-selling.


    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/24/devin-nunes-trump-media-stock-congress-00154054

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    "Nunes’s letter marks a new salvo in Trump Media’s attacks on Wall Street over claims that the Trump-controlled company’s stock price is being swayed by professional traders wagering against it. Trump Media, whose stock is majority owned by the former president himself, has undergone severe price swings since debuting in the public markets late last month."
     
  11. egger

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    Nunes resigned from Congress to work for Trump and his media company.

    Nunes doesn't appear to have any prior experience with handling social media companies.


    https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/04/politics/devin-nunes-resigns-from-congress/index.html
     
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    The court system has become the last line of defense against people like Trump, and the U.S. Supreme Court has the ability to remove it.

    The court system itself may become corrupt and ineffective in the coming years. The Trump-appointed Judge Cannon is an example of a judge continuing to coddle and defend Trump for unsavory actions he took while president while chastising the prosecution after she was twice overruled and severely reprimanded by the conservative 11th Circuit that ruled in favor of the prosecution in the federal documents case.
     
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    A major development.

    Fake electors of AZ in 2020 election have been charged with state crimes.


    Trump’s 2020 'fake electors' charged with state crimes in Arizona

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    "Among those charged is Kelli Ward, who served as chair of the Arizona GOP during the 2020 election and the immediate aftermath. She tweeted on Jan. 6, 2021, after the attack on the U.S. Capitol: “Congress is adjourned. Send the elector choice back to the legislatures.” Ward was a consistent propagator of false claims that Arizona’s election results were rigged.

    Others charged include: state legislators Anthony Kern and Jake Hoffman; Michael Ward, Kelli Ward’s husband; Tyler Bowyer, the RNC’s Arizona committeeman and the chief operating officer of the Trump-aligned Turning Point USA; Greg Safsten, the former Arizona GOP executive director; former U.S. Senate candidate Jim Lamon; Robert Montgomery, the former head of the Cochise County GOP; and Republican Party activists Samuel Moorhead, Nancy Cottle and Loraine Pellegrino."
     
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    'So appalled': What witnesses told special counsel about Trump's handling of classified info while still president

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    "In the summer of 2019, only hours after an Iranian rocket accidentally exploded at one of Iran's own launch sites, senior U.S. officials met with then-president Donald Trump and shared a sharply detailed, highly classified image of the blast's catastrophic aftermath.

    The image was captured by a U.S. satellite whose true capabilities were a tightly guarded secret. But Trump wanted to share it with the world -- he thought it was especially "sexy" because it was marked classified, one of his former advisers later recalled to special counsel Jack Smith's investigators, according to sources familiar with the former adviser's statements."
     
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    Trump’s 2020 'fake electors' charged with state crimes in Arizona

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    "Chesebro and others, including Trump legal adviser John Eastman, argued in the months after the 2020 election that then-Vice President Mike Pence could use the existence of the alternate electors to name Trump the winner of the election as he presided over the electoral vote count in Congress on Jan. 6.

    Eastman wrote in a memo: “At the end, he announces that because of the ongoing disputes in the 7 States, there are no electors that can be deemed validly appointed in those States. … There are at this point 232 votes for Trump, 222 votes for Biden. Pence then gavels President Trump as re-elected.”"
     
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    It's a sign of the tenacity of Trump. He called then-governor Ducey just as he was signing the certification of Biden's win in AZ.

    Ducey is seen on the video muting his phone. It was playing 'Hail To The Chief', the ringtone Ducey was known to have for Trump.
     
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