The Donald Trump Score Card

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  1. egger

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    Trump going on and on about how he supposedly defended the Capitol and that it was the fault of Pelosi and the mayor of DC.


    READ: Transcript of CNN's town hall with former President Donald Trump | CNN Politics

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    "TRUMP: Chris Miller wrote a book, and he’s a fantastic guy, and he was ready to go. They turned him down.

    If you look, the mayor of Washington, D.C., lovely lady, she said, we don’t want it. We don’t like the look. Nancy Pelosi said, oh, we don’t like the look.

    If they would have had just – I offered them 10,000 soldiers. I said it could be 10,000. It could be more. But I offered them specifically 10,000 soldiers. If they would have taken 500 soldiers, you wouldn’t have had the problem. They turned it down.

    And if you look at the inspector general report, he says they turned it down. They made a terrible mistake.

    COLLINS: Well, Chris Miller was your acting defense secretary. He says you never gave that order.

    But back to what happened on that day, he said you weren’t…

    TRUMP: He did not say that.

    COLLINS: You – he has testified that, Mr. President.

    TRUMP: He did not say that.

    COLLINS: But you said you weren’t very involved that day.

    You did tell your supporters to come to Washington. You tweeted about it, about that speech…

    TRUMP: That’s true, of course.

    COLLINS: … that happened on the rally. So, when they…

    TRUMP: Am I allowed to say that?

    COLLINS: When they went to the Capitol and they were breaking into the Capitol, smashing windows, injuring police officers, why did you – why did it take you three hours to tell them to go home?

    TRUMP: I don’t believe it did. Oh, let me pull it out. I have to pull it out.

    TRUMP: So – so, if you look at – on January 5, the day before, I said: “Please support our Capitol Police and law enforcement. They are truly on the side of our country. Stay peaceful. Stay peaceful.”

    This was the day before. And this was in the form of Twitter. Now I use TRUTH, TRUTH Social. I think it’s far superior, OK?

    TRUMP: I hope everybody’s on – I hope everybody’s on TRUTH.

    If you look, January 6, this is at 2:00 – before 2:30. “I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful.” This is right after – as it was happening. But what happened is, they took it down. I don’t know why. I think they took it down because it was so good. They didn’t like it being up there.

    TRUMP: “I am asking” – this is – and we didn’t know until I got it back, because now I have 90 million people waiting for me to go back.

    But I’m on TRUTH, and I’m staying on TRUTH.

    Listen, “I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol remain peaceful. No violation.” It’s we want “no violation. We want no violence. Remember, we are the party of law and order. Respect the law and our great men and women in blue. Thank you.”

    That was at 2:30. That was very early.

    COLLINS: Mr. President, I looked at the same timeline that you did.

    Once it was clear…

    TRUMP: No, I know, but you didn’t report that. You know why? Because it was taken down.

    COLLINS: We did report it. I was reporting that day.

    TRUMP: It was taken down, and it wasn’t put back up.

    COLLINS: But when it was clear to you that they were not being peaceful – you saw them rushing the Capitol, breaking windows. They were hitting officers with flagpoles, Tasing them, beating them up.

    When it was clear they weren’t being peaceful, why did you wait three hours to tell them to leave the Capitol? They listen to you like no one else.

    TRUMP: Yes.

    COLLINS: You know that.

    TRUMP: They do. I agree with that.

    But Nancy Pelosi…

    COLLINS: So, why didn’t you tell them to go home sooner?

    TRUMP: Nancy Pelosi and the mayor are in charge. I assumed they were able to do their job. They weren’t.

    COLLINS: But Pelosi is not in charge of Capitol security.

    TRUMP: And it kicked in.

    And, if you remember, I made a video right outside the Oval Office in the Rose Garden. And I’m very proud of that video. I didn’t have a script. I don’t need scripts, like a certain person that’s in there right now.

    COLLINS: But what time – the video, it came out much later, after they had already attacked the Capitol.

    TRUMP: It’s right there. It’s right…

    TRUMP: It was a great video. And it was a beautiful video.

    And it said – I mean, I don’t want to read it all, but you have – “You have to go home now. We have to have peace. We have to have law and order. We have to respect our great people of law and order. We love the people of law and order. We can’t play into the hands of these other people. We have to have peace. Please go home.”

    I said that. You know what they did?

    COLLINS: Well, referring to the law and order there, Mr. President…

    TRUMP: They took that down. And, you know, to this day, it hasn’t been put up.

    And the reason is, it’s so good and so conclusive that all of this nonsense and all of the tens of millions of dollars that have been spent are just wiped away with this one, and they have never put it back up. They had another one that they did the same thing.

    COLLINS: But that video that you referenced there, it wasn’t posted until 4:17 p.m.

    TRUMP: No, I will tell you…

    COLLINS: They breached the Capitol at 2:00 p.m., Mr. President.

    TRUMP: That video was posted…

    COLLINS: 4:17 p.m.

    TRUMP: Yes, before – actually, a little bit before that.

    COLLINS: Right. So, that’s my question.

    TRUMP: But – excuse me.

    COLLINS: Because, in that three hours, over 140 officers were injured.

    TRUMP: Excuse me. It was posted after the first one I just read, though, and that was at 2:00.

    COLLINS: But I think the reason the timeline is so critical here, because, going back to your influence, in that three hours…

    TRUMP: There’s another one I post.

    COLLINS: … over 140 officers were injured that day.

    TRUMP: And a person named Ashli Babbitt was killed.

    COLLINS: Yes.

    TRUMP: You know what? She was killed, and she shouldn’t have been killed.

    And that thug that killed her, there was no reason to shoot her at blank range. Cold, blank range, they shot her. And she was a good person. She was a patriot.

    COLLINS: One person who was there…

    TRUMP: And there was no reason. There was no reason.

    And he went on television to brag about the fact that he killed her.

    TRUMP: She was a patriot. There was no reason –

    COLLINS: One person who was there –

    TRUMP: – there was no reason. And he went on television to brag about the fact that he killed her.

    COLLINS: That officer was not bragging about the fact that he killed her.

    TRUMP: Oh, he was bragging."
     
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    Rioter who was in Senate chamber sentenced to two years in prison.


    Wounded man who invaded Senate with knife sentenced to prison for Capitol riot

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    "An Alabama man was sentenced on Tuesday to nearly two years in prison for storming the U.S. Capitol and invading the Senate floor with a knife on his hip and a gaping wound on his face.

    A police officer shot Joshua Matthew Black in his left cheek with a crowd-control munition outside the Capitol during the riot on Jan. 6, 2021. The bloody hole in his face didn't stop Black from occupying the Senate with other rioters after lawmakers evacuated the chamber.

    “Black was a notorious offender during the attack on the Capitol,” prosecutors wrote in a court filing. “The nation was shocked and appalled at the events of January 6, and perhaps no other incident sparked as much as outrage and distress as Black and other rioters’ occupation of the Senate Chamber.”"
     
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    But what about Hunter's laptop????
     
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    Congress and the VP can request the National Guard but it needs to go up a chain of command in the Pentagon, which is part of the reason for the slow response during the riot at the Capitol.

    Trump as commander-in-chief had the most power to quickly deploy the National Guard, like he did against BLM protesters for events like the photo-op at a church near the White House where he held a Bible upside-down that was stored in Ivanka's $1600 handbag.

    Trump lied in a pre-recorded video released the day after the riot that he deployed the National Guard as soon as violence started at the Capitol.

    During the CNN town hall event in NH, Trump didn't bother to make that claim again. He said it was Pelosi's responsibility (which it wasn't).
     
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    Trump's insurrection showed the vulnerability of Congress to terrorists. The Jan. 6 event was domestic terrorists. It could be any group of terrorists.

    After Trump's insurrection, Congress debated about the creation of a rapid-response force to protect the Capitol to be used for situations such as the one on Jan 6. when Trump was delinquent in his duties. Congress didn't produce any results from that discussion. The primary responsibility still rests with the president who is commander-in-chief of the armed forces.

    Trump makes selective decisions about protecting the Capitol based on the type of attackers. He could let the Capitol be attacked by people who stem from a group that he likes, such as one of the overseas dictators he admires, so as to not insult the group he likes.
     
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    Brett, I think I just threw up in my mouth a little...
     
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    Humble, lil' ol' jackass me....
     
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    Trump thinks that the Presidential Records Act gives him the right to keep presidential records as his own private property after he leaves office.


    Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978

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    • Establishes public ownership of all Presidential records and defines the term Presidential records.
    • Requires that Vice-Presidential records be treated in the same way as Presidential records.
    • Places the responsibility for the custody and management of incumbent Presidential records with the President.
    • Requires that the President and his staff take all practical steps to file personal records separately from Presidential records.
    • Allows the incumbent President to dispose of records that no longer have administrative, historical, informational, or evidentiary value, once the views of the Archivist of the United States on the proposed disposal have been obtained in writing.
    • Establishes in law that any incumbent Presidential records (whether textual or electronic) held on courtesy storage by the Archivist remain in the exclusive legal custody of the President and that any request or order for access to such records must be made to the President, not NARA.
    • Establishes that Presidential records automatically transfer into the legal custody of the Archivist as soon as the President leaves office.
    • Establishes a process by which the President may restrict and the public may obtain access to these records after the President leaves office; specifically, the PRA allows for public access to Presidential records through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) beginning five years after the end of the Administration, but allows the President to invoke as many as six specific restrictions to public access for up to twelve years.
    • Codifies the process by which former and incumbent Presidents conduct reviews for executive privilege prior to public release of records by NARA (which had formerly been governed by Executive order 13489).
    • Establishes procedures for Congress, courts, and subsequent Administrations to obtain “special access” to records from NARA that remain closed to the public, following a privilege review period by the former and incumbent Presidents; the procedures governing such special access requests continue to be governed by the relevant provisions of E.O. 13489.
    • Establishes preservation requirements for official business conducted using non-official electronic messaging accounts: any individual creating Presidential records must not use non-official electronic messaging accounts unless that individual copies an official account as the message is created or forwards a complete copy of the record to an official messaging account. (A similar provision in the Federal Records Act applies to federal agencies.)
    • Prevents an individual who has been convicted of a crime related to the review, retention, removal, or destruction of records from being given access to any original records.
     
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    Why should Trump even bother to sound defensive about showing classified documents to people after he was out of office.

    He thinks he had a right to take them without reporting it to the National Archives because the boxes were on the sidewalk for people to see.

    Trump has already said that he declassified everything by simply thinking about it, which, in his mind, moots any civil or criminal case that could be brought against him.
     
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    Nothing is off limits to the damn fool.:cool:
     
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