The Donald Trump Score Card

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  1. egger

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    Fixed.
     
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  2. erofant

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    Yes!

    Many people who simplistically thought that by Rump saying he was going to bring back good-paying manufacturing jobs to the U.S. ACTUALLY BELIEVED in his simplistic answers. Where is this wave of incoming, good-paying U.S. manufacturing?? The companies he demanded stay here have also left the U.S.

    And by looking at his life before he ran for president - anyone could see that Rump is only for Rump. In his interview with Playboy magazine back in the 80's, he said this, " The show is Trump - and it's on 24-7." It's all about him and his quest to be in the spotlight. Is that the kind of person we want to lead our country?? His addiction to be the talk on everyone's lips is evident in EVERYTHING Rump does. His 24 hour tweets about subjects and people that no normal president would EVER concern themselves with is living, breathing proof of his need to be in the spotlight all the time. CLASSIC NARCISSIST.

    Because many people couldn't see through Rump's outer shell, and stupidly believed that he could "declare" that manufacturing had to return to the U.S.- they were wishing on a star by voting for him. NO PRESIDENT can "declare" or "order" all manufacturing to return to the U.S. It would require an all-out world war to cause that to happen, I suspect.

    Another HUGE character flaw is that he thinks he's smarter than everyone else on ALL TOPICS. A-R-R-O-G-A-N-C-E. How's his "genius" over handling the Covid-19 pandemic working out for his faithful flock of LEMMINGS .............. and sadly ......................... everyone else??? He publicly, shamefully disparages the experts in infectious diseases. Who the F is he to tell life-long experts in those fields??

    Rump was a crooked, criminal, liar, and cheat while in private business. No ethics - no morals. And now he's one as president.

    So just how smart does that make our electorate look to the rest of the entire world?? And more importantly ........................... to ourselves. Maybe we all ought to pay closer attention to who the person is, what his/her ethics and morals are, their ACTUAL BELIEF in a 3-branch form of government as designed by the founders, ( not "I have final say on everything" - a la Rump ), and review their attitudes toward getting expert counsel from ACTUAL experts. Then making decisions based on that expert advice - be it military, medical, climate-oriented, national interests/international affairs, etc.
     
  3. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Lev Parnas told Rachel Maddow that Barr made Trump powerful. We now have a very powerful organized crime boss in the executive branch. Barr is systematically erasing Mueller's work and removing federal government lawyers who are in the process of investigating Trump's criminal activity. We can say Barr is obstructing justice for Trump. This is what one would see in some third world nation with a drug lord running the show.
     
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  4. erofant

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    This is what blind obedience to an idiot president gets you. A president who publicly - shamefully - disparages REAL EXPERTS in the field of infectious diseases. Those REPUBLICAN governors who stuck with the president's advice to "open up everything" now have egg on their faces. The California kiddies who only want to "head for the beach to party and surf, dude" get what's coming to them too. Idiots will be idiots.

    Karma, baby.
     
  5. erofant

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    EXACTLY. The word for this is C-O-R-R-U-P-T-I-O-N.
     
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  6. hotwater

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    NBC News is reporting 70,000.

    Hard to believe just two weeks ago we were talking about 50,000 cases in 24 hours.. Dr Fauci may be right we may be headed for 100,000 .
    and April's peak of 36,000 (when we were in full lockdown mode) is now a distant memory.
     
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  7. Flagme15

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    I find it interesting that barr is allied with trump. barr was ag under old man bush, and we know that the bush's dislike trump.

    it must suck to be a republican governor that has to go back on his word. hahaha.
     
  8. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    They are attempting to shield Trump from the law by replacing the independent federal courts with their own ass kissers.
    Maddow sounds the alarm on Bill Barr ‘decapitating’ US attorneys in key places that were investigating Donald Trump
     
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  9. egger

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    The Trump faithful are still willing to go down with the Titanic.



    Will Republicans ditch Trump to save the Senate as support nosedives?
    The human and economic fallout from the coronavirus pandemic has transformed the political landscape and increased talk of a sinking ship
    David Smith in Washington
    Sat 11 Jul 2020 08.32 EDT

    Will Republicans ditch Trump to save the Senate as support nosedives?

    excerpts:

    “The mood is like probably what it felt like when you were on the Titanic,” said Joe Walsh, a former congressman from Illinois. “These cowardly Republicans in the Senate and House know Trump’s going to get destroyed in November but they’re tied to him and they’re gonna go down with him and they have no choice, and I think they realise that.”


    "Walsh, who unsuccessfully challenged Trump for the 2020 Republican nomination, said: “I can tell you, publicly and privately conversations I’ve had, they’re scared shitless, all of them, any Senate Republican on the ballot. I mean, forget about Colorado, it’s done. Arizona is done. I think Maine is done. Joni Ernst in Iowa is almost done. Every race is going to be competitive. Democrat Doug Jones has got a fighter’s chance of winning in Alabama. Lindsey Graham is in serious trouble and they all know it.”

    It is an astonishing turnaround in less than a year as the political and business worlds have lost confidence in Trump. A Citigroup poll of 140 fund managers last December found 70% expected him to win re-election, but last week 62% said they expect Biden to prevail. That once-impenetrable Republican strongholds such as Arizona, Iowa and South Carolina are now in play is a measure of how much has changed.

    Tara Setmayer, a former Republican communications director on Capitol Hill, said: “The people who pay attention to the numbers internally are very worried and they’re spending money in places that they never imagined they’d have to allocate resources like New Hampshire, like Georgia, like South Carolina."
     
  10. 6-eyed shaman

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    Seth Rich was murdered 4 years ago today. His killer is still out there.

    RIP Seth
     
  11. egger

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    Barr upends U.S. Attorney succession in EDNY
    Rita Ciolli
    Updated July 10, 2020 7:21 PM

    Barr upends U.S. Attorney succession in EDNY

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    "President Donald Trump signed an unprecedented executive order Thursday to upend the established rules of succession for U.S. attorneys, installing a loyalist to Attorney General William Barr as head prosecutor in the Eastern District of New York.

    Seth DuCharme, a career prosecutor in the EDNY, had been detailed to the Justice Department in D.C., first as special counselor to Barr, and at the end of the year took over as principal deputy coordinating the work of the nation’s U.S. attorneys. He will now succeed Richard Donoghue, who is heading to Washington to take the slot DuCharme is vacating. Unknown is whether Donoghue, who coordinated the Ukraine investigations, including those of Rudy Giuliani and Hunter Biden, would continue that oversight from D.C. or whether DuCharme would take over the role.

    Donoghue’s resignation initially was to take effect just after midnight Monday, but on Friday afternoon he made his departure effective immediately."
     
  12. Tyrsonswood

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    You are such a caring individual, 6-eyes....


    Well.... Okay, maybe not.


     
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  13. Flagme15

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    You might want to investigate the trump organization. I mean with Giuliani's connections to the mafia. . . . . . . . . .
     
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  14. stormountainman

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    If all this is not enough, a man named Thomas Cooper got caught changing 5 absentee ballots from Democrat to Republican. Cooper worked as a mail man. The Republicans can't win anything in the honest way. They need to cheat.
     
  15. Idlewild

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    Apparently, Trump commuted Stone's sentence instead of issuing a pardon because with a pardon, Stone would have lost his 5th Amendment protection from self-incrimination. With a commutation, he still has that protection

    So Stone can continue to plead the 5th to protect Trump.
     
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  16. egger

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    Mitch McConnell is now doing a candy-ass version of mildly distancing himself from Trump by promoting face coverings. He started the public preaching near the end of June after it became apparent the U.S. was experiencing a resurgence of the coronavirus.

    Trump aside, McConnell becomes GOP's preacher on masks
     
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    An article about the assets and liabilities of pardons.


    How a Presidential Pardon Could Backfire
    By Jack Brewster
    July 21, 2017 2:54 PM EDT

    How a Presidential Pardon Could Backfire

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    "Under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, Americans are protected against self-incrimination, but people who have been pardoned are no longer under any legal jeopardy, Harvard Law School Professor Laurence Tribe told TIME.

    “Anyone pardoned by Trump would lose most of the 5th Amendment’s protection against compelled testimony that might otherwise have incriminated the pardoned family member or associate, making it much easier for DOJ and Congress to require such individuals to give testimony that could prove highly incriminating to Trump himself,” Tribe said in an email.

    Still, that could lead to another constitutional standoff, if the recipients of the Trump pardons refused to testify before Congress. Mark Osler, a University of St. Thomas Law School professor who has written about the president’s pardon powers, said Congress might respond by holding them in contempt, leading to a second pardon.

    “We could go to a second round of the abuse of the pardon power,” Osler said. “I mean if you’re willing to do it in the first place and abuse it that way I don’t see what the break would be in doing it at the second level.”"
     
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    A commutation gives Stone a chance to appeal his convictions which he has stated he wants to do. He's still a convicted person with the commutation before appeals are attempted. It's an uphill battle for Stone considering the numerous counts for which he was convicted and the unanimous decisions.

    Trump could pardon Stone later if Stone's appeals fail for some or all of the counts. Stone accepting a pardon would acknowledge that he was convicted of crimes and it would preclude him from being able to further appeal. It implies that someone will remain guilty forever but forgiven by the President and precluded from punishment, although lawyers for the person who accepted the pardon can make arguments to the court that try to mitigate that type of status.

    Sheriff Arpaio's decision to accept Trump's preemptive, pre-appeal pardon precluded him from appealing and essentially made him guilty forever. Trump and Stone haven't taken such a short-circuit approach.

    After Arpaio accepted Trump's pardon, Arpaio's lawyers later tried to have the court vacate all orders including his contempt conviction by arguing that it was a result of happenstance or inequity (Arpaio involuntarily being offered a pardon by Trump; Arpaio's acceptance supposedly unfair due to pressure to accept it early to avoid sentencing). The court decided against Arpaio because he willingly accepted the pardon.
     
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  19. Tishomingo

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    And Trump and Devoss are pushing full back to school in August, come hell or high water, and even threatening school districts that resist with loss of aid.
    Textbook hypocrisy: Getting political on school reopening
    Trump threatens to pull tax exemption for schools, colleges
    Trump threatens to 'cut off funding' for schools that don't reopen amid pandemic
    trump threatens schools that won't reopen - Yahoo Video Search Results
    Folks who resent having guvment tell them to wear masks might consider what they think of guvment telling them they have to send their kids into harms way--or else!
     
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  20. Tishomingo

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    It would be nice if he could. Right wing trolls keep dredging up fake news about his death, four years after the event. So far, the bases for their conspiracy theories appear to be fake news.
    PolitiFact - The baseless claim that slain DNC staffer Seth Rich gave emails to WikiLeaks
    FACT CHECK: Did DNC Staffer Seth Rich Send 'Thousands of E-Mails' to WikiLeaks Before He Was Murdered?
    Gingrich Spreads Conspiracy Theory
    Sean Hannity, a Murder and Why Fake News Endures
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...h-conspiracy-shows-how-fake-news-still-works/
    Seth's parents have made clear how unfounded and stressful they consider these stories to be, and their representatives called them the work of "disgusting sociopaths"., and even sued Fox News over the incident. So yes, may he and the fake story rest in peace.
     
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