The Donald Trump Score Card

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  1. Tishomingo

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    Will they prefer the guy who got them there?
     
  2. Tyrsonswood

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    Trump praises Chinese president extending tenure 'for life'
     
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  3. Asmodean

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    Is Trump really the primary cause for the current/upcoming economic crisis?
     
  4. Flagme15

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    Thanks for posting that. The fact of the matter is trump has said that more than once.
    With a republican controlled congress, and Supreme Court, don't think he wouldn't try it. Of course, there might be civil disobedience.
     
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    Appreciated!
     
  8. erofant

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    A good many Republican politicians were pushing for term limits before Trump got in. We'll see what liars they turn out to be if Trump tries to push for a "tenure for life" as he gushes over Xi Jinping's forcing it in COMMUNIST China. Trump also supports Putin's bid for "a strong leader for life." Our U.S. President supports 2 COMMUNIST DICTATORS for engineering their "tenure for life" and gushes over them for their "strong leadership."

    If a Dem was to do the same things - what would the Repubs be saying? They accused Obama of being a dictator, a tyrant, running roughshod over the Constitution, being a communist, a terrorist, etc. But because Trump's in the White House - NOT ONE WORD from the muck-mouth, hypocritical Repubs. No claims of Trump tearing up the Constitution, running roughshod over it, being a tyrant, a dictator, a communist, a "non-patriot", of issuing too many executive orders (lots more than Obama!) etc.

    The Repubs are the book definition of hypocrites. ( If your guy does "X", he's a traitor, a tyrant, a communist, a dictator, etc. - - - - - - but if our guy does "X", he's a hero, a true patriot, a savior for the country, a great leader, etc. ) That is the very definition of hypocrisy.

    IMHO - the U.S. is doomed because of stupidity, apathy, lack of truth and integrity, rampant corruption, and an ill-informed & undereducated population. No spine. Roll over when individual freedoms are stepped on by the rich and well-connected for the purpose of making themselves even richer. We're not even 250 years old as a democracy - that's a flicker of lightning in history. It's very easy to lose this democracy because of blindness, apathy, and stupidity - and revert to a totalitarian state / autocracy / dictatorship. Don't believe it??? Look at the history of the world and see how many other countries like this ever existed.

    For those who say: "It'll never happen" - haven't you noticed the rug being pulled out from under you by gerrymandering all across the U.S., and efforts to suppress voters from voting??? District maps have been drawn in ridiculous shapes and configurations - and the hand-picked, corrupt, puppet courts rule that there isn't anything wrong with those maps!! Massive purges of registered voters from voter rolls in various states?? Last minute changes of voting locations with no notice?? Claims of voter fraud where there IS NONE??? Ever wonder how after an election, the claims of voter fraud go silent if the Repubs win the seat?? But if a Dem wins the seat - all hell breaks loose with all kinds of claims of fraud, cheating, dead people voting - ( has that one ever been proven BTW??? )

    Don't be so smug & self-assured about the thought, "It'll never happen here." The U.S. was born of a violent revolution.
     
  9. Flagme15

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    and the fact that the American public is more concerned about being entertained, and less concerned about being educated.
     
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    He Could Have Seen What Was Coming: Behind Trump’s Failure on the Virus
    By Eric Lipton, David E. Sanger, Maggie Haberman, Michael D. Shear, Mark Mazzetti and Julian E. Barnes
    April 11, 2020
    Updated 5:57 p.m. ET

    He Could Have Seen What Was Coming: Behind Trump’s Failure on the Virus

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    "The president, though, was slow to absorb the scale of the risk and to act accordingly, focusing instead on controlling the message, protecting gains in the economy and batting away warnings from senior officials. It was a problem, he said, that had come out of nowhere and could not have been foreseen.

    Even after Mr. Trump took his first concrete action at the end of January — limiting travel from China — public health often had to compete with economic and political considerations in internal debates, slowing the path toward belated decisions to seek more money from Congress, obtain necessary supplies, address shortfalls in testing and ultimately move to keep much of the nation at home.

    Unfolding as it did in the wake of his impeachment by the House and in the midst of his Senate trial, Mr. Trump’s response was colored by his suspicion of and disdain for what he viewed as the “Deep State” — the very people in his government whose expertise and long experience might have guided him more quickly toward steps that would slow the virus, and likely save lives.

    Decision-making was also complicated by a long-running dispute inside the administration over how to deal with China. The virus at first took a back seat to a desire not to upset Beijing during trade talks, but later the impulse to score points against Beijing left the world’s two leading powers further divided as they confronted one of the first truly global threats of the 21st century.

    The shortcomings of Mr. Trump’s performance have played out with remarkable transparency as part of his daily effort to dominate television screens and the national conversation."
     
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  11. egger

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    Trump's trade war contributed to the bungled response of his administration to the virus.

    Trump's urge to start policy fights with other countries like China and concoct fake or avoidable crises cripples his ability to deal with threats that are real.

    He's a populist wind vane whose direction changes as he meanders to try to limit damage caused by his avoidable fights, such as his trade war, at the expense of causing avoidable damage from a real impending threat.

    After the fights he has picked contribute to his failure to address a real crisis, he's forced to try to window-dress his avoidable failures as successes by blaming others.

    This goes to the core of a novice like Trump whose ego thrives off starting fights with others, as opposed to a leader who has the experience to govern and build coalitions with groups and countries that create an atmosphere of cooperation during a real threat.

    The coronavirus caused a global crisis that best reveals the flaws of Trump that were not seen by some during a time of prosperity and lack of real crises.

    After all of his failures, Trump feels forced to finally make empty phrases such as "we're all in this together" to try to make himself sound conciliatory and cooperative, which is the antithesis to his mindset that caused the problems that he lacks the expertise to solve.
     
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    Some of the public are still more concerned about Trump insulting Biden's son as they lose their own jobs and as their lives are being theatened by a virus.
     
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    With Each Briefing, Trump Is Making Us Worse People
    He is draining the last reserves of decency among us at a time when we need it most.
    Tom Nichols
    Aptil 11, 2020 6:30 AM ET

    With Each Briefing, Trump Is Making Us Worse People

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    "What I mean instead is that Trump is a spiritual black hole. He has no ability to transcend himself by so much as an emotional nanometer. Even narcissists, we are told by psychologists, have the occasional dark night of the soul. They can recognize how they are perceived by others, and they will at least pretend to seek forgiveness and show contrition as a way of gaining the affection they need. They are capable of infrequent moments of reflection, even if only to adjust strategies for survival.

    Trump’s spiritual poverty is beyond all this. He represents the ultimate triumph of a materialist mindset. He has no ability to understand anything that is not an immediate tactile or visual experience, no sense of continuity with other human beings, and no imperatives more important than soothing the barrage of signals emanating from his constantly panicked and confused autonomic system."
     
  14. erofant

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    He's self-centered to the Nth degree.
     
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  15. Tishomingo

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    Why is it, then, that he has such an ardent fan club? The late Senator John McCain gave an answer: “What he did was he fired up the crazies.” Commentator Jonathan Chait advanced a similar theory: they're idiots. Here’s the Real Reason Everybody Thought Trump Would Lose Cognitive neuroscientist Dr. Bobby Azarian provides more sophisticated in-depth answers. In The Psychology Behind Donald Trump's Unwavering Support he posits four explanations: (1) the Dunning-Kruger effect: the MAGA hat folks are not only ignorant but are too ignorant to realize they're ignorant; (2) exaggerated fear responses, detectable by fMRI; a terror-management strategy leading them to cling to rigid nativist ideologies and to reject aggressively contrary information; (4) high attentional engagement by Trumps' showmanship and simple, visceral message--the more outrageous the better! In another article, Azarian deals with the personality types who support Trump identifies five types: (1)authoritarian (high F-scale) personalities, characterized by submission to a leader and hostility toward out groups ; (2) Social Dominance Orientation (SDO), preoccupation with grabbing and holding power; (3) prejudice against racial, ethnic and/or religious minorities; (4) limited social contact with minorites; and (5) relative deprivation, a sense of being deprived of something which a person think's (s)he's entitled to--white voters who feel threatened by changing demographics including feminism, immigration, and minority advancement. An Analysis of Trump Supporters Has Identified 5 Key Traits Of course, there are lots of Trump supporters who are simply habitual, dyed in the wool Republicans/conservatives and could never bring themselves to vote for a Democrat even though they sense Trump isn't their father's kind of Republican/ conservative. And there are those who are simply opportunists who support Trump because of his judicial appointments and tax cuts. At a more Freudian level, there are the Milo Yianoppoulos types looking for a Daddy figure, and the gamergate group seeking outlets for their ids to play. I'm sure, many HF Trumpsters will protest, but one or another of these shoes seems to fit a lot of you.
     
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    Many of his base vote on one item only - guns. They're convinced that those "evil communist Democrats" are going to come door-to-door and confiscate their guns.

    I might pose a theory I think could happen, based on historical power grabs in the world. If the Republicans are so hell-bent to gain total control of all 3 branches of government, and then retain control well into the future, as power and money hungry types like the Koch brothers wanted - why would they allow the citizens to stay well-armed?? If a revolt or rebellion started, they'd want the population to be UN-ARMED so they could be crushed, as happens in COMMUNIST dictatorships and other authoritarian regimes around the world. Once any political group gains total power - they DO NOT want to relinquish it.

    I'd bet if the Republicans gain both Houses of Congress, the White house, (they already have puppet Supreme Court "justices" to rubber-stamp whatever the R's want) - I'm looking for major restrictions on individual rights. Guns, worker's rights, voting rights, surveillance of suspected opposition, etc. to come to the fore. The JOKE of a Supreme Court decision in "Citizens United" where the Republican-picked "justices" ruled that corporations are citizens, and can pile political contributions in to the party of their choice - ALWAYS Republican. (Oh they'll give a token small amount to the Dems so they can say, "We gave to both parties." But the massive amounts will go to the Republicans. An individual citizen is limited in how much they can contribute legally to a political campaign - but the corrupt "justices" allow corporations an almost unlimited amount of money to flow into Republican coffers. And much of political corporate donations are so-called "dark money" that can't be traced.

    Does any of this sound like a fair and honest way to run a country? A democracy, no less??? Just like the Roman empire, we'll collapse from corruption, distrust of everything (like now?!), lying, cheating, one-sided wealth, etc. Why do you suppose so many REALLY RICH people have underground bunkers loaded with every creature comfort and MAXIMUM SECURITY in New Zealand and other remote locales??? They're hedging for the inevitable global uprising when people finally realize how badly they've been screwed by the rich & powerful and well-connected. Some of their yachts have not one - but two helicopters in case one fails for a quick escape. If you think I'm joking - just do some research.
     
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    You two have something in common then
     
  19. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Very amusing coming from you
     
  20. Flagme15

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    Yeah, but he is going to watch easter services.
    Yeah right.
     
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