The Donald Trump Score Card

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by MeAgain, Nov 15, 2016.

  1. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    "One of the 100 most influential people in New Jersey politics"


    Ba ha ha ha, that's some serious credentials

    Ha ha ha lolz
     
  2. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    You asked what the Monmouth polls were.
    I told you.

    I'm not interested in your opinion, such as it is.
     
  3. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Trump shuts down asylum system at Mexican border.
     
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  4. egger

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    Trump's Polling Bump Was Easy Come, Easy Go
    COMMENTARY
    By A.B. Stoddard
    April 9, 2020

    Trump's Polling Bump Was Easy Come, Easy Go | RealClearPolitics

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    "The peak in the president’s approval, from about two weeks ago, resulted from what pollsters call a “rally around the flag” effect most presidents have experienced in times of grave crisis, from war to natural disasters. Yet Trump’s was smaller and has dissipated more rapidly in comparison to his predecessors.

    The Navigators daily tracking poll out Saturday showed Trump voters are disappointed in his response, with 40% of them saying he didn’t take the threat seriously enough at first, a number that rose 17 percentage points in less than two weeks. The survey found 66% of independents, as well as 66% of Americans overall, also said he hadn’t responded to the threat early enough, and those numbers had increased by 10 points in a week.

    An ABC News/Ipsos poll from Friday also found the bump had disappeared in two weeks' time, with a 55% majority that had been approving now down to 47%. New CNN polling shows the six-point approval margin Trump held in mid-March for his pandemic response is down to one point now, essentially a split opinion. A Politico/Morning Consult poll shows the net approval of the president's management of the response dropping seven points since March 20."
     
  5. egger

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    60,415 COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. by August 4, 2020 are projected if stringent social distancing efforts remain in place.



    COVID-19 projections assuming full social distancing through May 2020
    Last updated April 8, 2020 (Pacific Time).

    IHME | COVID-19 Projections


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  6. egger

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    Trump was making remarks that implied that people who are showing mild symptoms could return to work. He was assuming that they aren't a risk to spreading the COVID-19. It was a very misleading remark, regardless of what he claims he really meant. Some of his followers are still making such remarks.

    Trump on March 4, 2020 talking to Sean Hannity of Fox: "So if, you know, we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better, just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work, some of them go to work, but they get better," he said.

    3300 people had already died of the coronavirus when Trump made that remark.

    Trump later tried to backtrack on his remark by saying that he didn't say that people who are feeling sick should go to to work.

    Trump doesn't seem to be aware that those with mild symptoms and those who are asymptomatic but carry the virus can spread the disease.

    Testing is needed to determine who is a risk for spreading the virus before people can safely return to work and, as Trump was promoting, pack the churches.

    Trump later tried to backtrack on his 'pack the churches' remark by saying he was simply being aspirational after Pence apologized for him and said that Trump was being aspirational.

    The coronavirus itself is difficult to battle. Countering Trump's loose talking and misleading remarks is a battle in itself and makes the problem more difficult to solve.
     
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  7. egger

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    Coronavirus live updates: U.S. deaths near 15,000 as NY reports more cases than any country
    Here are the latest coronavirus updates from around the world.
    NBC News
    Updated April 9, 2020, 2:02 PM UTC

    Coronavirus live updates: U.S. deaths near 15,000 as NY reports more cases than any country

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    "Simulation shows how coughing can spread virus in indoor spaces

    Researchers in Finland released a video Thursday that showed how droplets from a cough in an indoor space — such as a typical grocery store — can hang in the air for “several minutes” and travel across aisles, possibly infecting passersby with the virus.

    A digital model built by Aalto University and other Finnish research facilities was released with a warning: "It is important to avoid busy public indoor spaces."

    That data and video showed that airborne particles emitted with a cough, sneeze, "or even talking" can spread in a cloud that lingers. Avoiding busy indoor areas reduces the risk of droplet infection while in close proximity to others, which is currently the main cause of coronavirus infection, the research said.

    People who are infected could “cough and walk away, but then leave behind extremely small aerosol particles carrying the coronavirus. These particles could then end up in the respiratory tract of others in the vicinity,” Aalto University Assistant Professor Ville Vuorinen said in the research report."


    A 3D model of a person coughing in an indoor environment – how an aerosol cloud travels in the air

    Youtube video:

     
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  8. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    O? Was she very popular in Australia?
     
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  9. egger

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    This is representative of the misleading behavior of Trump. His administration officials were following a rule that they themselves set. Later, they blamed their poor response to the coronavirus on a regulation that Obama supposedly set but didn't.
     
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  10. stormountainman

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    That's exactly what I say!
     
  11. egger

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    Misleading aspirational remarks can be deadly.
     
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  12. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Yes, he says the Coronavirus is serious enough to shut down the border and send all Spanish speaking people and their children back to their own country, then in the next breath he wants Americans back at work because Coronavirus is not serious and will disappear in a few days? Anyone on HF see how ridiculous Trump sounds these days?
     
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  13. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Lolz, you need to build a 3D model to explain to people 2m social distancing is useless

    This is really what is wrong with the world
     
  14. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Oh FFS, so down from 150k to 80k, to 60k

    And it's all because social distancing is working! Not because we got it totally friggin wrong in the first place

    And the sheeple will just lap that shit up....well all except the 30 million newly unemployed
     
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    US coronavirus deaths pass 14,000, but future projections are better than expected
    By Holly Yan, Steve Almasy, Madeline Holcombe and Omar Jimenez, CNN
    Updated 11:55 PM ET, Wed April 8, 2020

    US coronavirus deaths pass 14,000, but future projections are better than expected - CNN

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    ""What has been so remarkable, I think, to those of us that have been in the science field for so long," Birx said, "is how important behavioral change is, and how amazing Americans are at adapting to and following through on these behavioral changes."

    "That's what's changing the rate of new cases, and that's what will change the rate of mortality going forward," she said.

    Cuomo said it was a bit of good news/bad news.

    "Our actions have been better than the statisticians believed. So, we can flatten the curve. We are flattening the curve," he told CNN. "We have to maintain it, but the human cost here, the human toll, the suffering, is just incredible. It's just incredible.""
     
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  16. Vanilla Gorilla

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    I am totally perplexed as to why you would not edit that out
     
  17. egger

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    The COVID-19 death rate in the U.S. is projected to peak on Easter Sunday.

    Ironically, that's the day Trump called for churches to be packed with people.



    US coronavirus deaths pass 14,000, but future projections are better than expected - CNN

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    "Researchers say the peak has yet to come. The US will reach its highest daily number of deaths on or around Sunday, according to modeling by the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington in Seattle."
     
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    If you were one of those religious types wouldn't being in church when you die be ideal?
     
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  19. egger

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    McEnany said that Trump was keeping America so safe that it wouldn't see the coronavirus.

    That remarks sounds as silly as G.W. Bush during his reelection campaign running ads claiming that he was keeping America safe after he didn't prevent 9/11. One of them was an ad showing a soccer mom in a minivan full of little children saying, "I'm voting for Bush because he's keeping me safe."
     
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  20. egger

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    McEnany has the chance to now say that what she really meant was that Trump will keep America so safe that the U.S. won't see the coronavirus 'again'.

    She should completely model herself after Trump who, after haplessly saying that Putin wouldn't invade Crimea, long after he had already invaded Crimea, said that what he really meant was that Putin wouldn't invade Crimea 'again'.
     
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