The Bible contradicts it self?

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by OlderWaterBrother, Apr 26, 2009.

  1. Monkey Boy

    Monkey Boy Senior Member

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    That's right. The dogs that lick the the sores are the gentiles.
     
  2. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    I hadn't thought about that but that could very well be.
     
  3. Monkey Boy

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    James 2:12 says we are freed by the law.

    Galations 3:23 says we are enslaved by the law.
     
  4. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    Death as the last enemy? That's very interesting because I always thought that the last taboo of discussion of mankind would be death.
     
  5. OlderWaterBrother

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    These do seem contradictory but first I would ask you; do you think they are talking about the same law?
     
  6. OlderWaterBrother

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    As the last enemy, death is to be brought to nothing. (1 Corinthians 15:26)
     
  7. Monkey Boy

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    Oh, I see. James is talking about the Royal law not the law of Moses. If we are freed by following a law isn't that salvation by our own effort?
     
  8. OlderWaterBrother

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    Is becoming a Christian to be effortless?
     
  9. Monkey Boy

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    In my mind the minute we say that we are Christians base of what we do we have no faith. Even Jesus said he wasn't good. That's not to say we shouldn't do good deeds, but just know it doesn't come from us.
     
  10. OlderWaterBrother

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    What do you think Jesus had in mind when he said at Luke 13:24 “Exert yourselves vigorously to get in through the narrow door"?
     
  11. Monkey Boy

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    That's fine as long as you don't claim credit for getting through. Jesus also said those who come to me I will raise up. John 6:44.
     
  12. OlderWaterBrother

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    Quite honestly, what is the point you are trying to make?
     
  13. Monkey Boy

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    Like Paul said without God we are nothing. So all good things come from him.
     
  14. OlderWaterBrother

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    True, and...
     
  15. Monkey Boy

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    It's all about him.:D

    Edit: What I mean is what we do doesn't make us Christians by what he does through us. Big difference.
     
  16. OlderWaterBrother

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    Okay, how about another seeming contradiction?
     
  17. Monkey Boy

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    Okay.

    1 Corinthians 15:50 "flesh and blood can not inherit the Kingdom of God"

    Luke 24:39 "a ghost does not have flesh and blood as you see I have"
     
  18. Tsurugi_Oni

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    I already mentioned one about the story of Genesis, but...

    If you believe that God's has mood swings (like it appears in the Bible), then you don't understand God.

    If you teach God in such a limited personified way that they do much in the Bible (except for the Alpha-Omega, beginning/end stuff....), then I completely understand why there are so many lost atheists and so many confused theists.

    Do you honestly believe a book written down by many people, over a moderate amount of time, is going to be translated exactly word for word, concept for concept? Because I promise you that it isn't.

    O yea, what about those missing books of the Bible? I guess God must of been snoozin when the RC Church ordered those out.

    Do miracles happen? Without a doubt.

    Is there such a thing as sin? According to the Biblical definition, nope.

    If you believe God created the universe in a series of 6 snaps of a finger, spontaneous generation of stuff, you don't understand God.

    Plus, how is there any concept of "day" before the universe was created? Considering the term day is an artifical time measurement made by humans based on the rotation of the earth relative to the sun?

    From God's almighty perspective of pureness, before any relativeness, God created something in a "day"? I'd like to know...
     
  19. OlderWaterBrother

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    That was already covered in Post #19 but here’s a recap for you:
    Actually we are talking about apparent Bible contradictions. If you believe that any of what you just said here is an apparent Bible contradiction please point it out and explain why you think it is and we’ll talk about it.
     
  20. OlderWaterBrother

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    At the time of the flood wicked angels materialized human bodies on Earth and had children with the daughters of men. Likewise Jesus after his resurrection was able to materialize a human body so that he could show his followers that he had indeed been resurrected and that is what Luke 24:39 is talking about but when he later ascended into heaven he was unable to take his materialized with him because as 1 Corinthians 15:50 says "flesh and blood can not inherit the Kingdom of God".
     

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