The Bible contradicts it self?

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by OlderWaterBrother, Apr 26, 2009.

  1. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    No they are not the same, Heaven is where God resides and paradise is talking about what the Earth will become. As for Sheol, that is the common grave of mankind and not the paradise that is spoken of.
     
  2. Monkey Boy

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    Sheol/Hades had a paradise portion and suffering portion. (Luke 16:23). Those who did good including Abraham waited in the paradise portion for the judgement/ressurection and those who did bad waited in the suffering portion.
     
  3. Tsurugi_Oni

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    Ughh, it's like arguing if magical unicorns eat vegetables or hay.
     
  4. OlderWaterBrother

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    Nice Comment, did you have an apparent Bible contradiction you would like to discuss as well?
     
  5. OlderWaterBrother

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    You know course that Luke 16:23 is part of an illustration, don't you?
     
  6. Mrdude46

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    Did Salomon have 5000 horses or 50,000?
     
  7. Mrdude46

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    How did Jesus die on friday afternoon and rise on sunday morning and do all that in 3 day?
     
  8. OlderWaterBrother

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    This is generally believed to be a scribal error, not a contradiction, much like your spelling Solomon, Salomon.
     
  9. OlderWaterBrother

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    I'm sorry but on this one I'm not sure what you are asking.
     
  10. Ukr-Cdn

    Ukr-Cdn Striving towards holiness

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    So when we die in friendship with the LORD, then we go to Paradise until we can stand in the glory of God?
     
  11. Ukr-Cdn

    Ukr-Cdn Striving towards holiness

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    Where does it say he was dead for three full days?

    Friday= 1
    Saturday= 2
    Sunday= 3

    Luke 24:7;46. Jesus just says he will rise on the third day.
     
  12. Monkey Boy

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    Ofcourse. I guess there are just different interpretations. Thanks.

    Edit: I'm still learning this stuff. :)
     
  13. OlderWaterBrother

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    All await the resurrection.
     
  14. OlderWaterBrother

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    Thanx. I was really not sure what he was asking.
     
  15. OlderWaterBrother

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    I know that some believe this to be an actual picture of something that happened.

    But if you look at it a number of questions arise, like is there any reason for a rich man to go to “hell” just because he’s rich and is there any reason for a poor man to go to “heaven” just because he’s poor and if the rich man was really in a place of fiery torment would a drop of water do any good, let alone get to him?

    This illustration was aimed at the Pharisees Jesus was talking to, so in the illustration:
    Who do you think pictured the Pharisees?
    Who did Lazarus picture?
    What did the riches picture?
    What did the blazing fire and the drop of water picture?

    And we are all still learning this stuff.
     
  16. Ukr-Cdn

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    In Paradise?
     
  17. OlderWaterBrother

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    I'm not sure that I would call the sleep of death, Paradise; the Bible calls it the last enemy.
     
  18. Ukr-Cdn

    Ukr-Cdn Striving towards holiness

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  19. Monkey Boy

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    The rich man is the Pharisees.
    Lazarus represents the Gentiles.
    The riches are the Kingdom of God.
    The blazing fire is the Pharisees pride.
    Drop of water is the Gospel.

    I don't know. What do you think?
     
  20. OlderWaterBrother

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    Actually pretty good.

    The rich man is the Pharisees and also all the other Jewish religious leaders of the time, who were rich in spiritual privileges and opportunities.

    Lazarus represents the common Jews that the religious leaders of the day denied proper spiritual nourishment and privileges and yet, it is those very people who hunger and thirst for spiritual nourishment and so are at the gate seeking to receive whatever meager morsels of spiritual food may drop from the rich man’s table.

    The riches are the spiritual privileges and opportunities.

    The blazing fire, God’s fiery judgment messages are what torment the rich man.

    The Drop of water is that they want some let up on declaring these messages, thus providing them some measure of relief from their torments.
     

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