The Bible contradicts it self?

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  1. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    Women's rights denied
    Gen 3:16/ 1 Tim 2:12/ 1 Cor 14:34/ 1 Pet 3:6

    Women's rights affirmed
    Judg 4:4,14,15/ Judg 5:7/ Acts 2:18/ Acts 21:9
     
  2. Rudenoodle

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    n Genesis 1:1, the earth and "heaven" are created together "in the beginning," whereas according to current estimates, the earth and universe are about 4.6 and 13.7 billion years old, respectively.
     
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    GOD WILLS IT!! :eek:
     
  4. Rudenoodle

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    God gives freely to those who ask
    James 1:5/ Luke 11:10

    God withholds his blessings and prevents men from receiving them
    John 12:40/ Josh 11:20/ Is 63:17
     
  5. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Yes in the beginning the earth and heavens are created but as I've repeatedly pointed out, no one knows when that was or how long it took.
     
  6. Rudenoodle

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    You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old?
     
  7. I'm not commenting particularly on two self-contradictory passages...but I find it funny that people claim it's infallible...and then at the very end it says "Whoever adds to or takes away from the passages of this book, etc."

    Why say it?! You can't possibly alter an infallible book! It kind of turns the whole thing into a practical joke.
     
  8. Rudenoodle

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    God commands, approves of, and delights in burnt offerings,
    sacrifices ,and holy days
    Ex 29:36/ Lev 23:27/ Ex 29:18/ Lev 1:9

    God disapproves of and has no pleasure in burnt offerings,
    sacrifices, and holy days.
    Jer 7:22/ Jer 6:20/ Ps 50:13,4/ Is 1:13,11,12
     
  9. OlderWaterBrother

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    What? First, in what way does pointing out that the Bible does not say how old the earth is, mean that I'm spending my life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth.

    Second, there was no guessing involved, whether I find nothing wrong with it or not.
     
  10. def zeppelin

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    What's the difference between that and the government going to wars? It's either God wills it or the government.

    Why is it ok for the government to sanction killings? They'll say, "Oh because it's done out of self defense". So why can't we say the same for the Biblical stories? Suddenly it's monstrous when ancient people do it during a time when it was kill or be killed. Yet we go to wars now when it is not that drastic yet this is ok and the former is not. Interesting.
     
  11. Rudenoodle

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    Blessed is the man that feareth the Lord... Wealth and riches
    shall be in his house...
    - Psalms 112:1-3

    It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than
    for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.
    - Matthew 19:24
     
  12. OlderWaterBrother

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    But your definition of murder was intentional killing, while I'm sure some killing in self defense is accidental and unintentional; there are sometimes when it is intentional, such as when a person realizes that the only way to stop the immediate death of yourself and your family is to kill the person trying to kill you, thus according to your definition that would no longer be self defense but murder.
     
  13. Rudenoodle

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    No that would be self defense, executing a prisoner who is in restraints and strapped to table completely unable to defend themselves is murder.

    Man was created after the other animals
    Gen 1:25,26,27

    Man was created before the other animals
    Gen 2:18,19
     
  14. OlderWaterBrother

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    So, does this mean you are changing your definition of murder?
     
  15. OlderWaterBrother

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    This has already been discussed at length in this thread.
     
  16. Rudenoodle

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    The killing of another human for reasons other than self defense?

    ... the earth abideth forever.
    - Ecclesiastes 1:4

    ... the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and
    the works that are therein shall be burned up.
    - 2 Peter 3:10
     
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    I guess if you kill in self-defense, you could say that the choice and thus the intention to kill was taken out of your hands.

    The problem is that we usually "just know" these things. It's only when you try to write a law that understanding the difference between a battered housewife finally snapping after 15 years of hell and someone stabbing someone because they wanted their trainers becomes difficult. Unfortunately, it's also essential that someone be able to do this, because the alternatives are either impractical or a recipe for inequity. e.g. if you took each case on its own merits, you'd constantly be subject to the whims of the jury - if they just plain didn't like you, you wouldn't have the specifics of the law to protect you from that.
     
  18. Rudenoodle

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    Robbery commanded
    Ex 3:21,22/ Ex 12:35,36

    Robbery forbidden
    Lev 19:13/ Ex 20:15
     
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    Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'

    Matt 7:23

    All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away

    John 6:37
     
  20. OlderWaterBrother

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    One might ask themselves, what is meant by "comes to me", does that really mean just calling yourself a "Christian" or is there something more to it?
     

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