The Bible contradicts it self?

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  1. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Once again, why would you define that as murder?
     
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    have u guys ever heard abt Acharya S. ?
     
  3. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    Murder, Pillage, and Plunder

    "Next we headed for the land of Bashan, where King Og and his army attacked us at Edrei. But the LORD told me, 'Do not be afraid of him, for I have given you victory over Og and his army, giving you his entire land. Treat him just as you treated King Sihon of the Amorites, who ruled in Heshbon.' So the LORD our God handed King Og and all his people over to us, and we killed them all. We conquered all sixty of his towns, the entire Argob region in his kingdom of Bashan. These were all fortified cities with high walls and barred gates. We also took many unwalled villages at the same time. We completely destroyed the kingdom of Bashan, just as we had destroyed King Sihon of Heshbon. We destroyed all the people in every town we conquered – men, women, and children alike. But we kept all the livestock for ourselves and took plunder from all the towns." (Deuteronomy 3:1-7 NLT)

    God Kills 70,000 Men Over a Census
    (God punishes David for ordering a census of his people.) Yahweh spoke to Gad, David's seer, saying, Go and speak to David, saying, Thus says Yahweh, I offer you three things: choose you one of them, that I may do it to you. So Gad came to David, and said to him, Thus says Yahweh, Take which you will: either three years of famine; or three months to be consumed before your foes, while the sword of your enemies overtakes you; or else three days the sword of Yahweh, even pestilence in the land, and the angel of Yahweh destroying throughout all the borders of Israel. Now therefore consider what answer I shall return to him who sent me. David said to Gad, I am in a great strait: let me fall, I pray, into the hand of Yahweh; for very great are his mercies: and let me not fall into the hand of man. So Yahweh sent a pestilence on Israel; and there fell of Israel seventy thousand men. (1 Chronicles 21:9-14 WEB)
     
  4. OlderWaterBrother

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    Once again, why would you define that as murder?
     
  5. Rudenoodle

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    God dwells in light
    Tim 6:16

    God dwells in darkness
    1 Kings 8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2
     
  6. OlderWaterBrother

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    Yes, It might be interesting for you to note that she says; "The sun 'dies' for three days at the winter solstice, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th.." but the Christ of the Bible has nothing to do with December 25. Jesus was neither born nor did he die any where near December 25. He was born near the 1st of October and died in late March or early April. The date December 25 was "borrowed" from sun worship by those who called themselves "Christians" but that date and Christmas have nothing to do with the Bible or true Christianity.
     
  7. Rudenoodle

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    God knows the hearts of men
    Acts 1:24/ Ps 139:2,3

    God tries men to find out what is in their heart
    Deut 13:3/ Deut 8:2/ Gen 22:12
     
  8. neodude1212

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    come on guys, it's only murder if people do it.
    When God does it, or when people do it because God told them to, it's only called "killing" and is perfectly ok.
     
  9. OlderWaterBrother

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    Once again, how would you define murder?
     
  10. neodude1212

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    The act of intentionally killing.
     
  11. OlderWaterBrother

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    So if someone is executed for being a mass murderer, the person who performs the execution is a murderer. Interesting.
     
  12. Rudenoodle

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    Exactly! :smash:

    Now your catching on!
     
  13. Rudenoodle

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    God is warlike
    Ex 15:3/ Is 51:15

    God is peaceful
    Rom 15:33/ 1 Cor 14:33
     
  14. OlderWaterBrother

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    And if someone kills someone in self defense, that too would be murder?
     
  15. OlderWaterBrother

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    Depends on what he's doing.
     
  16. Rudenoodle

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    No it does not, those are two different circumstances.
     
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    Killing commanded
    Ex 32:27

    Killing forbidden
    Ex 20:13
     
  18. OlderWaterBrother

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    So killing in of it's self is not murder?
     
  19. Rudenoodle

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    Defending yourself is not murder, a government executing someone is.

    God is satisfied with his works
    Gen 1:31

    God is dissatisfied with his works.
    Gen 6:6
     
  20. OlderWaterBrother

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    I think this has already been covered. It's murder and not killing that is forbidden at Ex 20:13.
     

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