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Seconded. People who want justify verbal homophobia often insist that gay people just have no sense of humour. I'm not saying that making these kinds of jokes would take the fun out of it for them. But given how much pleasure it seems to bring to a nation of assholes, it's gotta be worth a shot.

 

Seconded. People who want justify verbal homophobia often insist that gay people just have no sense of humour.
QUOTE] actually most gay have the best humor and the uptight macho guys are right down boring as hell.

 

My main experience of the gay sense of humour has been noticing that objects look a bit like cocks, and getting four hoursworth of material out of them. Whereas with straight guys they'll get done with it after two hours and fill up the remainder with dead baby jokes. So whichever you prefer.

(I'm beginning to wonder if I should just put a disclaimer after everything I say, I'm sure someone's going to find that offensive).

 

It's worth noting that the Oxford English Dictionary has idea what the origins of the word "gay" actually is. Which is why I prefer to use "fag", because at least then I know where I stand.

But yeah, what insanejester describes is semiotics, and it runs contrary to the idea that a word is inherent with its meaning(s) like some Adamite language. To quote Humpty Dumpty: "Words means what I say they mean".

 

and by the way even the british have lost lots of the well known british humor they once were well known for.

 

To be honest, I have no idea where the idea of the "great British sense of humour" even came from.

 

Monty Python , Benny Hill . Are you being served, quite a few more. Red Dwarf .

 

of course not much difrent in the USA since all the great comidians are either dead or too old to think of anything decent.

 

I though Fag were cigarrets in your side of the pond.

 

The rules of the Forum state "No Trolling", "No Flame Baiting." You'd like to give eraz a free ticket because, why? Or are you saying you don't agree to the rules you signed on to?

You seem to be taking him seriously, because you're consistantly engaging in his squirrel debates. He may take "it" to every other forum if he's banned from the Gay Forum. That's up to Hip Forums to decide. Myself, I've had enough of the shaming and baiting. This is suppose to be a safe place for LGBT folks. All the forums are suppose to be free from flame baiting and trolling, not just the straight ones.

You will never change Eraz's mind. He comes here to disrup not discourse. He comes to disseminate bigotry. You suggest that comparing him to a Nazi won't help. This is always the way with the right-wing. They act like Nazi's and then cry when we call them on it. They're cry babies.

Now, you're suggesting I knock it off. However, when Eraz spews his bigotry with flame baiting, well -that's free speech! You believe he should be allowed to do that. How is it free speech only works for bigots?

That's one way you seem to be in cahoots. Another is that you are consistently engaging in a weak debate with him after others have let an issue drop, like a straight man who sets up the joke for his partner. Sorry, I haven't been keeping notes. And I am not going to go back and review your dialogue. What I stated was, "I have wondered at times," Wonder, that's something that happens when you have a free mind. I hope you approve of wonder?

I would like to refer you again to the rules of this forum. You are not allowed to post flame bait nor trolling. You seem to disagree with the rules, or don't seem to understand them. If so, you should take some time to review the rules you agreed to.

Flame baiting can be small and constant, like chinese water torture. I said I am going to point out each time he flames, whether small or gross.

We're talking about institutionalized homophobia. In the 1950's in the south many people did not believe they were racists because blacks had their own schools and bathrooms. They also didn't see anything wrong with the 'N' word. Using the word gay pejoratively is like teaching your child a nursery rhyme that insults the king. 1) The child doesn't know what he's saying, so the king can't hang him for treason. 2) The child eventually grows up learning to hate the King, he transposes the lesson he learned at a very young age along with his peers.

insanejester, words in and of themselves are benign, that's what the quote from Romeo and Juliet means. The intention used with certain words, when they're meant to demean and debase, as you demonstrated, is what makes them offensive. It's an institutional device that keeps an element of society, like LGBT, suppressed. If you're willing to use these words in a derogatory manner, that's your right, but be man enough to admit you're abetting that oppression.

Now, why do we have 3 straight guys and one closet case asserting their right to use the word "gay", or any other word, in any derogatory way they wish?

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Words don't mean what you say they mean any more than what your hearer thinks that they mean.

If there's a chance that you'll be misunderstood or not causing offense, you're best off not using the word. If you're the sort of person who does it just to offend someone, you don't deserve to be my friend.

 

Add Father Ted, Spaced, Black Books, and a bunch of others to that list.

Ballad, what is up with those pictures you keep posting?

 

I generally find it offensive but a good straight friend of mine described something as being gay once and quickly apoligized. I said "no problem, I say it too". So a few days later I did use it like that. And as I'm writing this, I realize that that was pretty lame but he's a good friend and I didn't want him to know that it bothered me.

Anyway, it's not just the use of the word gay that I find offensive. Everywhere I turn there are gay jokes that offend the hell out of me. I used to watch adult swim on cartoon network but it seemed like everytime i turned it on there was another offensive gay joke. I listen to laughbreak and rawdog (comedy channels) on Sirius. A lot of the comedians make offensive gay jokes.

There was a time when the jokes didn't bother me but they do now. Because even though the jokes can be funny, they reinforce the ignorant heterosexual mindset that there is something wrong with being gay.

 

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Okay, I do understand where you're coming from; I've been there. I have to say that I am glad to hear you are concerned with this issue. But to be honest, he doesn't sound like too good a friend. If we can't tell our friends how we feel about a slur that affects us, who can we discuss it with? When you can't say, "no it's not okay, but I forgive you for saying it." then you're telling your friends, as a gay person, that it's okay to use those derogatory terms against you.

I know that there are some people who look both ways to see if I'm around before they dispense their homo-jokes, but those folks aren't my friends. The joke telling has gone too far, I agree. Most of the time it's not even that funny. The so called comics are trying too hard, like saying fuck every other word. I only wish people would wise up before gay jokes just get to be another boring cliche like Leno and his Clinton and Monica thing.

I don't watch shows that do stereotyping gay jokes. Sending an email doesn't do any good. I just carry out my own boycott, no one has to tell me to. But I will let my friends know why I don't watch those shows, if they're like, "did you see...", I'm like, "I don't watch that anymore because of ..." It's more effective than sending an email.

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You like the Pictures?

 

Be my guest! However, don't be surprised to experience some confusion or frustration in a furniture store.

 

I was just wondering why you were posting them, seemed kinda random

 

life is random

 

This goes against every single one of my principles.