teaching english in asia / other jobs

Discussion in 'Asia' started by jacobfredjo, Jan 21, 2007.

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  1. heywood floyd

    heywood floyd Banned

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    You're wrong.

    Hagwons/public schools need foreign ESL teachers. If they have one, they will get more money. Parents will take their children to a hagwon with a white person working there.

    Most real teachers in the west do not want to leave their homes or move their families. So the hagwons hire university graduates. They want to come because they are young and because these people think it will be exciting to live in another country.

    The hagwon owners/public schools do not ask for a TESL. They do not ask for a 'teaching license'. They do not mention either of these things. They ask for a BA, a resume and a photo. That's all. If they like your face, they might not ask for a BA. They will also pay you more money. If this is illegal, the hagwon owners/public schools aren't telling the foreign teachers.

    Why don't you get angry at the people who are hiring Americans 'illegally'? There are many of these people in Korea. They are Korean.

    I guess it's just easier to blame the Americans... especially since you know that the law here is so biased against foreigners that the Koreans will always be right and the outsiders will always be wrong.
     
  2. zombie_girl

    zombie_girl Banned

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    Of course, school and hagwon have problem that employ disqualification foreigner English teachers are much.
    I'm contemptuous of both schools and illegal foreign English teachers and the police should strictly manage those schools
    but, you are talking that all is responsibility of Korean school
    Being supporting criminals
    Is expressing criminals as "Sufferer".
    It is geniune counterfeit as some unqualified had counterfeited their degrees to work here
    You are only trying to advocate yourself and there are no legitimacy to your argument.
    Not simply because you have BA degree you can work at a school in Korea. What it matters is the valid e-2 visa
    You are talking about BA continually but An important thing is not BA. It is the existence of E-2 VISA.
    If they are no E-2 visas, any foreigner can not do Korean hagwon, school or extracurricular work and it is unlawfulness
    And do you think that American english teacher such as you may insult the South Korea in this way?
    You wrote racist thread To title of Korea Sucks
    As I who is Korean inform true about Americans' crime in the South Korea, you spoke so
    "I wish someone delete whole of this"
    first time you wrote thread about insult Korea
    You required to remove because you became disadvantageous simply
    And you must know this truth before you defend yourself.
    Korean people are receiving grand damage by "Foreigner English teacher" plain such as you.
    They are not only teaching English inhabiting in South Korea.
    They have the high crime rate I can show article about them without limit
    When I saw you first time in this site, you were English teacher in the South Korea such as them.
    I can not recognize yet that you are different from them.
    And you are talking about problem in the school and institute continually, but problem is not as have the "Disqualification English teacher" plain.
    If to your speech they speak in the school and institute really "Deceived", they are commiting much crimes within the South Korea.
    And even, as come and feign as "Good teacher" like you in the South Korea to offender who is registered in the Interpol
    Was doing teacher in Korean school.
    Must live as we coexist with the "Latent criminals" plain until what time ?
    We must protect our country certainly
    That you do not have problem because you have BA talk want to
    However, you at this internet forum the South Korea without any reason insulted do
    I do not think that it is action that a steady person can do.
    And (although was removed all now) Your words that I remember was great superficial
    Is thinking that can commit some crime as well as you.
    If you do not have B-2 visa, you are offender.
    and if you hates South Korea enough to wrote of "Korea Sucks" in internet forum
    Please, leave the South Korea.
    We do not welcome to really that Americans such as you stay in the South Korea.
    This type of(Americans' crime in the South Korea) it after come to South Korea Americans such as you do English teacher crime of new type that occur be .
    And you want to speak that all Americans are not so.
    However, this work is work that is in 1978.
    since 1978 An American "David" entered South Korea by 20 orders or tourist visas
    After forge college diploma, worked as English teacher Korean college and hagwon etc.
    And violate and raped South Korea woman.
    He was illegal foreigner and lunatic.
    I want to believe "All Americans are not criminal"
    but, an American looks as all "Latent criminal"s to me.
    This is as natural result of action that Americans do.
    You must think this earning money here
    You are existence that is troublesome for Korean
    And you must not deal damage to Korean
    "Korea is worst country" "all Koreans are liar" "Korean driver skill is shit"
    In this way, before complain, take care of yourself
     
  3. heywood floyd

    heywood floyd Banned

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    Look... I said I was sorry for what I said, and I am. If you ever live in a foreign country for a long time you will understand that it isn't always easy and you can sometimes get confused and frustrated with what is happening around you.

    The reason I asked for my post to be deleted is because I said something that I didn't mean because I was having a 'culture shock' moment. I don't want to offend you or anyone because I know it's wrong. Also, I am sorry that you are angry because I don't want to make you think that all foreigners hate Korea. They don't hate Korea, they just get frustrated or get 'culture shock', and sometimes say things that they don't mean. I really am sorry, especially since there are a lot of people here that I really do respect and like a lot.

    If you are saying that people shouldn't be working here without an E-2 visa then that's true, but you said 'teaching license'... which I took to either mean something I am unaware of, or TESL/CELTA certification or something. You need an E-2 to work at one place, you need an F-2 or F-4 to work at a couple of places or do private lessons. Most American English teachers have one of those visas.

    I'm not saying that all foreigners are saints, or that they don't commit crimes. I'm just saying that most ESL teachers are not criminals. It seemed like you were trying to say that most Americans are criminals... which isn't true.

    The media just tends to focus on the bad ones, because it makes a good story.
     
  4. xXTHAVASAXx

    xXTHAVASAXx Banned

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    Most American English teachers have one of those visas.

    can i say something?
    It is no any fidelity on your speech, you always unproved that fat-mouth .
    "Official foreigner English teacher" in the South Korea is 17 thousand people all.
    However, 40 thousand people pass over unofficial totaling.
    Do you know what is that mean?
    Most foreigner English teacher is working unlawfully.
    If you can not prove some thing and is insisting your speech, show priority evidence.

    I don't want to make you think that all foreigners hate Korea. They don't hate Korea, they just get frustrated or get 'culture shock',
    The media just tends to focus on the bad ones, because it makes a good story

    I never said i care they hates Korea or not
    because most of them are criminal and nuisance for Koreans
    and my point was not that
    While when American criminal which is registered to interpol is working from the South Korea to English teacher, it was other foreigner woman English teacher who is working in such place that report him, and she answered so at interview with Korean media "It is due to this criminals that image about "Foreigner English teacher" is bad in the South Korea" she recognized about crime in foreigner English teacher's the South Korea, and was not impudent with you
    And you are explaining continually about thing which you abused the South Korea.
    Writings that you wrote did not have any validity, and you are racist simply and simply the South Korea thing which did insult be .
    You are explaining to class such as other foreigners which is staying you in South Korea, and is rationalizing action that you do because I who is Korean saw your writing, but your writing spoke criticism about the South Korea, and there was no entirely contents such as culture shock.
    You must recognize that you are racist you are earning money in the South Korea like parasite and are straggler who can not leave the South Korea.
    And must recognize that most English teacher is criminal almost.

     
  5. xXTHAVASAXx

    xXTHAVASAXx Banned

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    can you tell your cell number?
    or tell me What school are you working?
     
  6. heywood floyd

    heywood floyd Banned

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    Please stop.
     
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