Supreme Court Ruling on Cort Wrotnowski Suit

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Fyrenza, Dec 12, 2008.

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  1. Fyrenza

    Fyrenza Queen of the Ians

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    First, the link ~

    http://media.www.dailytoreador.com/media/storage/paper870/news/2003/03/27/LocalNews/Texas.Economy.Ranked.Eighth.In.World-1276352.shtml

    btw, that's taken from Gross National Product Statistics from the World Bank Atlas. There are a ton of citations of the "Eighth in the World" figures, but i will trust your 15th ranking.

    Be that as it may, we're just one state, that is (supposedly) completely self-sufficient, with the ability to secede from the Union, if it should become necessary.

    Were you wanting links about the logging situation, also?

    http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/money/story.html?id=ea218551-3ef4-4bbe-8bdb-1c6c1a695313

    GreenPeace had to step in because the way the Canadians have completely stripped the forests, they could be producing more greenhouse gases than from burning fossil fuels.

    Okay, and last, but not least,

    your insults have been duly noted, and i'd like to take this opportunity to thank you ~ you've made me more aware of my own lower inclinations. ;)
     
  2. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    Please, don't let me stop you.


    Greenpeace stepped in what? Greenpeace is an international non-governmental organization for the protection and conservation of the environment. So where do they have the authority make ANYONE do ANYTHING? They DON'T. The US is a far worse pollution machine than Canada could ever hope to be. But looking at Hamilton, Ontario, you wouldn't know it ;)


    Stop deflecting away from the your original topic: in 33 days your legally elected Chief Executive will be a negro and it burns your Texas butt that you can't do a damn thing about it. :D

    If I'm wrong, then what exactly have you been whining about since early November???
     
  3. Al Kapwn

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    Zoomie FTW!
     
  4. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Sorry, what does your point have to do with Obama's birth certificate?

    Whatever point you're trying to make is outlandish and prejudice. If you're tired of people criticizing American culture and politics then maybe you should counter those critics with valid responses, not fallacies.

    I mean, like you said - it's totally rude slamming other countries. But apparently you can do it to Canadians by saying we rose to presence in the global world by riding on your "coattails" so to speak. It certainly accomplishes nothing when you have zero credibility.

    You are essentially slamming Canada, and then telling me that by criticizing the American Constitution I'm the one who is perceived as being asinine. That's cute, truly.
     
  5. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

    The Boreal Forest is one of the most diverse and largest ecosystem on the planet. It is the most protected biodiverse region in North America, as 90% of it is owned by the Crown.

    Like, what is your point event? That GreenPeace gets pissed with the Canadian logging industry and that we export mostly to the USA? What is your point?

    "Completely stripped the forest"... Oh my, that's a knee slapper Fyrenza.

    Did you know that we don't have dollars in Canada, we have Francs? I haven't met a Texan yet who didn't know that.
     
  6. Fyrenza

    Fyrenza Queen of the Ians

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    Y'all are truly something else.

    Okay, so i've posted my UNmade up link, which did NOT come from Texas A&M. i also posted a link to a logging article, which covered Zoomie's jab at Texas' pollution problems AND showed the breakdown of the Canadian economy, just because the U.S. quit building houses.

    Ari? Did you miss the last couple of pages of this thread? That's where you'll find the correlations.

    And there you go again, called me prejudiced.
    It would certainly appear that you are a bit prejudiced against Texans...
    You don't know what race i am, but you assume that i'm a racist.
    You don't know who my friends, family or spouse are, but you assume that i'm prejudiced.

    PLEASE let this sink in:

    i couldn't care less what "race" Obama is;
    what i care about is that he's a liar, cheater, and a crook with a hidden agenda. (If you need some refs for any of that ^, Google it)

    Look, i'm sorry that the world looks at Canada the way they do. i've been there ~ it's beautiful, and the people are friendly (they really DO remind me of Texans! ;) ). But like it or not, your country IS perceived as riding on American coattails, of being our little sister, and i think in a lot of ways, that's been to y'all's benefit. Well, if that's considered slamming Canada, then i guess i'm guilty ~ but i'm sure not the only one!
     
  7. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    How many times did you vote for Dubbya Bush out of curiosity?
     
  8. Fyrenza

    Fyrenza Queen of the Ians

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    Want to post some links to back up your claims about the forest?

    Because THIS is what i found:

    Imminent Industrial Threats: Less than 8 percent of Canada's boreal forest is protected. This provides both opportunity and danger as the logging, hydropower, petroleum and mining industries continue to exploit the southern boreal forest and eye the still unallocated northern regions. In the west, oil and gas exploration and development have carved an ever-expanding network of roads and seismic lines into the forest. Industrial hydropower dams on the boreal forest's northern wild rivers have flooded wildlife habitat, clogged lakes with sediment and killed off critical fish species.

    Perhaps some pix of strip logging:

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    Perhaps not quite as much of a "knee slapper" as you thought...
     
  9. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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  10. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Oy. Let's see Fyrenza.

    You may find all my information here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boreal_forest_of_Canada

    "boreal region in Canada covers almost 60% of the country’s land area."

    I think I would notice if 60% of my country's land mass was "completely stripped". Where are your sources coming from? You clearly have no sense of what's going on in my country. So, how is this related to the USA letting Canada ride around on "coattails" presumably?

    Please don't take this like an attack, but I think you might need to ask questions more than pass judgements on people from other backgrounds, different culutures, separate identities before you can successfully form an opinion on how things are in the world. Just keep in mind that your views can come across as being highly biased and erroneous if you don't give people the chance to self-explain.

    If you want to know more about Canadian history, I'd be very willing to get into it more and explain why I don't believe Canadians rode around on USA coattails or exist simply because the USA permits us to exist. There are countless historians out there who would disagree with your argument and call it almost classist or xenophobic, elitist and self-loathing.

    It's pretty unfair to the thousands of Canadians who have fought and died for my country, for the people who held it together and won the last war we had between the USA and Canada.

    I'm not insulted you feel this way about Canadians and Canada and the USA. I'm more disappointed that you are basing your views on a false consciousness of what Canada is. Generally, I don't think you have a good grasp of what is Canada.

    "In contemporary times, the boreal forest has suffered little deforestation, defined as the permanent conversion of forest area to non-forest due to activities associated with agriculture, urban or recreational development, oil and gas development, and flooding for hydroelectric projects. In Alberta, the province with the largest oil and gas industry, more trees are cut for agriculture or oil and gas exploration than for timber.[12] In eastern Canada, over 9,000 square kilometres of peatlands and forest have been flooded over the past four decades for hydroelectric projects. Even so, the statistics don’t measure afforestation and such deforestation as is occurring is a fraction of the boreal’s 3,100,000 square kilometres. Canada as a whole has 91% of the forest cover that existed at the dawn of European settlement."

    So yeah. We have 91% of the Boreal Forest that we had well before Dominion in 1867. Sorry about that 9%, but we do need homes and hockey sticks.

    "Forest land in Canada is largely Crown land. Over 90% of the boreal forest is provincial Crown land; another 5% is federally controlled and includes national parks, First Nations reserves and national defence installations."
     
  11. Fyrenza

    Fyrenza Queen of the Ians

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    ROFL!!! No kidding! ;)

    That's why we all need to respect each other and basically agree that each one of us has a valid, based on the information available, opinion

    instead of getting wrapped around the axle REposting and RE-explaining everything.

    i mean, it isn't as though we don't have time to review and edit our posts ~ as opposed to speaking, face to face, where it's all completely spontaneous. imho, there is no reason for anyone to flame anyone, but i guess the arrogance of youth should, up to a point, be forgiven. ;)

    The reason i'm so afraid of Obama is that he is like Blagojevich in his attitude ~ now that he's PotUS, he feels that he's above the law and won't even deign to answer his critics' questions. So many folks have noticed him changing so many of the things he promised in his campaign that it really is beginning to appear that the "promises" were made STRICTLY TO INSURE A VOTE from the entity depending on the promise.
     
  12. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    All politicians cannot keep their entire campaign promises. Especially when they're handed a bees nest like Obama has. But God dammit, at least he'll try.
     
  13. Fyrenza

    Fyrenza Queen of the Ians

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    Okay, Ari.

    You win.

    Try not to break your arm, patting yourself on the back. ;)

    You know everything about everything and i know nothing.

    Congrats, Ari ~ another Hip Forum supporter, insulted, flamed and eventually run off by a MODERATOR.
     
  14. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    When do these go into circulation??



    AKA "militia myth"

    The land battle was considered a draw, so which part did Canada win??
    Canada was very close to losing it all.......
    U.S Plan of Campaign for 1815
     
  15. Burnt

    Burnt Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    You state in your post that we do not depend on Canada for anything, but if you would look at this, http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/...ons/company_level_imports/current/import.html. It appears that Canada is on top of the list of countries we get our oil from.
     
  16. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    :grouphug:

    It's alright sweet heart.
     
  17. Fyrenza

    Fyrenza Queen of the Ians

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    But are we TOTALLY dependent on them for it? Nope, so if something happened and we couldn't get oil from them, we'd go elsewhere.

    And i suppose my point was more along the lines of: Canada is more dependent on the U.S. than the U.S. is on Canada, but the truth of the matter is that we are all connected, so i don't know how valid THAT is.
     
  18. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    *blinks*

    Canada won the war of 1812. We got our land back that Americans had tried to take.

     
  19. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    What? You think Canadians are TOTALLY dependent on USA Beef or USA McDonald chicken nuggets or something?

    What is Canada totally dependent on the USA for, more than the USA is dependent on Canada for, huh?
     
  20. Burnt

    Burnt Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    So tell me where this elsewhere is.
     
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