interesting thoughts i think existence must be perfect to survive eternity and so it will keep on evolving until time comes to part with the mortal and then continue its eternity on the levelit reached.
Maybe I don't really want to know How your garden grows I just want to fly Lately did you ever feel the pain In the morning rain As it soaks it to the bone Maybe I just want to fly I want to live I don't want to die Maybe I just want to breath Maybe I just don't believe Maybe you're the same as me We see things they'll never see You and I are gonna live forever Maybe I don't really want to know How your garden grows I just want to fly Lately did you ever feel the pain In the morning rain As it soaks it to the bone Maybe I will never be All the things that I want to be But now is not the time to cry Now's the time to find out why I think you're the same as me We see things they'll never see You and I are gonna live forever We're gonna live forever Gonna live forever Live forever Forever Oasis - Live Forever
dude, it's hard to try and think about all of this. sometimes i feel like there's no point in living because we're all going to die anyway, but other times, i just wanna live, because if we are going to die and we don't know exactly what's going to happen after death, then shouldn't we take advantage of what we have now and make the most of it? i donno. it all depends on the way i feel at the moment when i try to understand all of this. peace & love.
what about when you start losing hope that life will bring you more pleasure than pain. Is suicide really an alternative? Maybe our world leaders are suicidal and that is why there is so much war. People have a lot of pride and aren't going to just kill themselves all quietly, some do. But why not do it with style, and take as many people who are too dumb to kill themselves with you.
Maybe when you die you are thrown into a river of energy. Sort of like ghost. Maybe you are just there, exsisting. When you go to sleep tonight in the dark, stare into the ceiling. You'll be suprised by what you see.
why not save your pennies and go travelling! great fun, you get away from any problems you've got. removing yourself from the problem geographically is a good way of solving problems. get your head together, think about what stuff you need and start living. of course theres always the risk of being killed by some psycho or freak occurence- why only today i went for a joyride in with someone in their powered parachute thingy and the engine cut out at 700 feet and we made an emergency landing. after making a mayday call. its amazing the kind of people you meet shysters con men drug addicts and thieves, though on the other hand you get to meet some very interesting people who might put some perspective on your life. you sound as if you need some perspective. so what - you go off for a month or so go walking camping etc. go explore the world. go for adventure. eg i lived in this place in the middle east once walking past someones house one night, i discovered them distraught, and smashing up their place because they had discovered their wife had been having an affair with the security guard of this place. they were in tears and really fucked up, the guy was telling me he was going to kill himself by going down to the local village where his kind were hated and they would kill him on sight. after musing on this i decided that i didn't really have much to live for either and i was going to accompany him and would both die together - now i was fully committed to this act and after encouraging him to get his machine gun, and walking and talking him about exactly how we were going to do this suicide, we set out on the path of "no return". unexpectedly we had to dodge the security man by taking cover , the security vehicle came within about six feet of us but luckily he didn't spot us because there might have been some sort of unfortunate gun battle- no point dying before our objective. after getting him to walk towards our doom for about no more than around 600 meters even in his suicide crazed mood he probably realised that i was probably more than likely really was going to get us both killed. no amount of goading and persuasion from me would make him to go any further. half an hour later i was back in my bed thinking no more of it, he was back in his house and that was that. i'm not sure how this story is going to help you but it might?
Life is simple... Il make it simpler... If you like to live, then carry on... If you dont, then kill ur self in the next couple of days... Like anyone gives a fuck anyway... Oh and if u are planning to kill ur self, try watching american beauty before you do..great film
You all seem to not have given much though to the energies of reality. Everything is energy, matter is energy, Life is energy. Life as it stands, is a bold reflection of the + force of creation. Whatever force led to our creation is one to be revered. In time all things in this physical relm disolve, their TRANSIENCE is a large part of the beauity. To distroy oneself "prematurlly" would just seem like a waste and a willful transition for postivite to - destructive energy. Although I must admit I had an attitude like that at one time. NOthing is unnessacary. Every monement, every thing matters. -PsDX
Thinking about this stuff gets me all irritable because I know the answer will never be found. Our parents protect use adn try to raise us right but, what is the point? When does it all pay off, living? what is the purpose, the meaning? I just try not to think about it and just live life how I can just pretending that their is a purpose to every move I make and every child that is born.
My only thoughts of suicide have been strictly out of curiousity. However, seeing that I am an atheist I would just be robbing myself out of living a few years longer. And, as for me, I like living....so far. But.... it is intriguing. Just to know that whenever you want you can just press eject and "game over".
ive been studying religions lately...most of the religions are trying to be bigger than other religions...some person disagrees with something in their religion, and they start a new one to try and make it better than the religion they used to be in...its seems like life is a competition to everyone...but in the end the same thing happens to us...we all die
unfortunately there is no is no restart button...or at least most religions don't believe there is...i don't know what to believe in man
I don't think that anyone is ever going to know for sure about life after death while still alive. It's sort of like trying to understand being awake while you're dreaming. However, we are all going to die, whether that means the end of who we are, or merely means the separation of some sort of "soul" from the body. I'm personally inclined to believe in reincarnation, but only because, based on my experience, it seems to make more sense than any of the alternatives. Interestingly enough, the next most likely possibility in my view is that everything is either completely arbitrary, or else the result of some sort of sick sadistic cosmic joke. Either way, it often seems like the real Hell is Life itself, and that Heaven (or Nirvana at least) is freedom from Life. Indeed, if Life turns out to be a dream and death an awakening, then suicide is no more morally wrong than deliberately jolting oneself awake out of a bad dream. It's a good thing that paradoxes don't faze me in the least; in fact, I'd be worried if I ever started to get any really consistent answers out of Reality. I can relate a few personal experiences, however. I've lost all fear of death. I mean, why be afraid of something that's both natural and inevitable? I certainly don't need the existence of any sort of postulated afterlife to cover up a naked fear of death; I just see death as inevitable, and accept it as such. I've lost four relatives who were close to me in the last five years. While I miss all of them, I never felt any real grief for any of them. What I mostly felt, in fact, was considerable relief that none of them had to suffer anymore, as all of them died from terminal illnesses. I've thought of suicide sometimes, but not because I want (or expect) anyone to feel in the least sorry for me. It has to do more with finding life to be too much of a drag, and I'm frankly sick and tired of it. Moreover, at my age (51), I know all too well that it's all downhill from here. At the same time, I don't want to engage in any illusions that "things are going to get better or be all right". It's much the same way that some people would rather endure excruciating pain than be doped up on painkillers. As for "making things happen", I should point out that it may be beyond one's situation to make a meaningful difference in their own lives, and that all the positive thinking in the world won't make any difference except to get them needlessly frustrated. The closest I can come right now is to accept things as they are, and to live a life of quiet, unrecognized heroism, even knowing that it probably won't make any difference at all in the greater scheme of things. And who's to say that anything anyone does is really going to make a difference anyway? At the end of it all, I have to forget about trying to save the world or even accomplishing anything significant, and just live my own life as best as I can. If suicide eventually becomes the final word in my life, so be it.
Good point! I don't have any idea if that reset buttom is really there, or that it really makes any difference, no matter how many times you add zero to zero, the answer is still zero... I do recall a scifi story in which some guy got caught in an endless time loop, much like a computer that's hung up on doing the same thing over and over, with no escape except to pull the plug -- and this guy couldn't even do that... (Sounds like at least a few people we know, doesn't it?) In the end, even if life is a sick joke and I'm the punch line, I still intend to laugh at it all, even if it's a bitter laugh. Even a sadistic creep of a god would have to be impressed by such audacity. Assuming there is even a god at all, or that he notices... Not that I care, I laugh for my own sake, and I don't care what anyone else thinks, not even god... I do like the name insanejester anyway, it reminds me of The Joker from the old Batman comics. To paraphrase The Joker, when faced with the ultimate absurdity of life, one goes completely insane; but any other course would be crazy! When life gives you a lemon, suck it dry and smile anyway.
You will not be resurrected. You will not be reincarnated. You will be recycled. Back into the earth, back into the ether...no consciousness, no indentity... Beautiful.
yes i understand that, but don't you think if the people that are of that religion would want to kill themselves, considering the fact that they believe that anything they do in their current life decides what they become in their next life, and do you really believe that one who takes his or her life that the "gods" have given them are going to come back as a god-like cow?
If any reincarnation exists and I admit it makes more sense to me than other things other religions talk about, I believe that you don't return as some sort of human being or animal, but rather a flower, a blade of grass, a leaf, or any other plant, because when one is buried our bodies decompose and we become a living thing, but not a thing that can move like humans, dogs, cats, elephants, or any other animal, because all organisms biodegrade and become other organisms. That's why there is so much nature on earth and beauty, because plants take the place of other beautiful, living things.
