hypothetically you kill yourself, hypothetically now again you have friends (though of course you believe the world is terrible and you have none) now continue this thread of thought, you hypothetically kill yourself now, the motivation supposedly is that you want your own pain to stop, not to cause pain to those people who do love you (who of course you believe do not because you are so emotionally fucked) so now, assume now that you actually have perspective for a moment.... all the people who you have hurt if you are just trying to get out your selfish desire to "end your own pain" then why would you want to hurt others tread the paths of your own mind, empathise and quit spewing emotional bullshit
If I wanted to end my own pain, I obviously wouldn't care about how others felt. Thus, if he had died, it's not my DUTY to not be affected.
how about this, when your friend recovers you ask him how he feels about the emotional harm that his attempt caused you he will likly never have conscidered it but will feel bad about that turmoil "oh but I don't want to make him feel bad by dumping all my shit on him, he's in the hospital and disfigured" guess what.... that's why I'm right..... now cry it to a teddy bear...
this is subjectivity v. objectivity, static reason v. temporal ideas people do not accept objectivity and frankly that's why society is so fucked up
Dude. This guys friend just tried to kill himself. Give him some love and hugs, and stop arguing with him, even if you're right (which I don't think you are). Please. My love goes out to you and your friend.
the thing is logic says I am right and allowing oneself to be overwhelmed by emotion is taken as a weakness in all other aspects of society, if someone gets too angry they are looked down upon, if one gets too excited they are looked as though they were a mad man.... allowing oneself to be conquered by grief and irrationality is weakness no matter how you cut it and people who suddenly think that suicide is a horrible thing and need to prop someone up because it's "someone they know" who in normal circumstances rip the hell out of people who are suicidal or laugh at jokes on the subject are hypocrites pick a god damned side and stick there......
Well, that's easy for me! I pick hugging Nathan, what a terrible thing to face in life, for him and his friend.
If getting upset because someone you were close to tried to kill themself is a weakness, thats a weakness I wouldnt mind having. Cuz everyone has their own little weaknesses. So shut the fuck up and stop tryin to make him feel bad for showing one of his. And in my opinion, its not a fucking weakness to show your emotions...
hey nathan, Im so sorry to hear about your friend. i am glad that hes alive. Send him my love! and tell him to stop and enjoy the little things in life. (i find taht in *sticky* situations stopping to smell the flowers always makes me feel better ) Don't worry about what other people say alright? you have every right to be upset. yes he is alive but his rash actions were unpredictable and a shock. Its scary the thought knowing how close you were to losing that person. suicide doesnt just effect that one person. it effects all of the people that were around them. suicide isnt like death, because as somone stated earlier death is something to celebrate. that i agree with...but suicide is cheating life...nothing else. The next time you talk to your friend you should tell him/her how you felt and how scared you were at the thought of losing such a good friend. Maybe you can even help them realized that even if just by a few people they are loved. But in reality its more than just a few. Look at all the people who have had positive things to say in this post and wishes for your friend to get better-thats a kind of love too although not as strong as yours...ya know? so like i said no worries Ashlee *Don't forget to stop and smell the flowers*
Listen to me for one fucking second, please. I don't give a fuck if you're right or wrong, that's completely beside the point. Arguing over whether he should be upset or not is helping anything or anybody. The fact is, he is upset, so try to comfort him. I don't care if he ought to be upset or not. Now I'm not trying to say that what you're saying is right or wrong, I'm trying to say that now is not the right time or place to be saying it. So please, do us all a favor and stop pushing your point, you're really making a jerk out of yourself.
showing and being controlled by are different things be controlled by your emotions v. controlling them I'm sorry I like being rational everyone here bitches about what's wrong with the world but when part of the problem is part of themself they are unwilling to excise it..... this is why humanity will never improve itself....
