Strengthen your faith in the bible Christians.

Yes, blessed is he who hungers and thirsts after righteousness for he shall be satisfied.

To be honest with ourselves is to recognize the truth. That we are sinful in nature is not the truth. To sin is to miss the sign of god, to not perceive the truth.

You are not guilty. To confess our sins to god is to be brutally honest with ourselves about our own causes. While I say you get caught up in the form of your rhetoric yo get caught up in the form of mine as well. All these words we are speaking have at there root an experiential conjugation. What does it look like when you try it on.

Christ suffered on the cross. Any looney can do that. The truth sets us free.
It is an abomination to lay with another man, that is to render inappropriate devotion, hero worship, upon another man. That is why we got hitler.

 

Entertainment it is. Tell us about your bike.

 

I'll start from the end of your post:

I said "The crucifixion. Christ's death. The death of Christ. Jesus' death. God's provision for sin."

You said:

I don't understand your wording here, except to say that the idea that we "pay our way to life" through following "the teachings of Christ" flies in the face of scripture, which says repeatedly that the life of God is God's gift to us. We may co-operate with God, and gain more of Him, but this is not the original, initial gift of eternal life. That gift is permanent.

You're an educated man. So was Nicodemus. He addressed Jesus as a "teacher from God", because he related to Jesus on that level, being an educated man. Nicodemus thought was that Jesus was merely a "teacher", with "teachings". Jesus was much more than a mere "teacher". He didn't come to merely leave us His "teachings". He came to become life to us.

Jesus response to Nicodemus questions was to tell him he needed to be born of another life, the life of God, through water (baptism), and the Spirit. This is a vital experience, not merely a formal ritual.

The flatline on the monitor in the hospital. No further heartbeat. That's the physical death.

Spiritual death manifests as discomfort, uneasiness, fatigue, unhappiness, emptiness, anguish, depression, illness, ill temper, all the things that are the antithesis of life. When we find ourselves in death, we need to simply turn to the Lord of life.

I know death, because I know life. Having the sense of life, I can also sense death.

I'm not there at the moment, but I'm supposing He's at the right hand of power, at the throne of God, in the heavens, bodily. That's what I read.

But as far as my experience? He's in me, in my spirit.

 

So? If you want to talk about JW then just say so, don't try to make up some falsehood to try and make it seem like it was already a topic of conversation.

As usual you make up a definition to try and make what someone has said seem like some thing else.

Saying I am not one just means that I am not one.

If that is true, then I definitely don't "disseminate their program".

If witnessing from my own spirit means defending Satan's lies and calling them truth like you do, then no thanks, I'll stick to what God's word says.

 

Here's a quote from John's gospel.

"And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour has come for the Son of Man to be glorified. Truly, truly, I say to you, Unless the grain of wheat falls into the ground and dies, it abides alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit." John 12:24

 

Who gave you life? God is closer than your own hand and nearer then your own heart. It is not up to you to determine what your inheritance is. The measure we give is the we receive, your holiness comes from within and as you give your blessing to the world, your holiness, that given by god in his likeness and image, is made secure as you bless the world and it's security becomes yours.

 

It was already a topic of conversation, you even said so. Have you figured out what day it is?

What definition did I make up. Saying you are not one is synonymous to dissociating yourself from them.

Yes, contention and a lesson of fear.

It isn't. it is witnessing from the spirit like you do.

 

That is to give up the separate self.

 

Sorry, but this is just the most convoluted paraphrasing,,,

It sounds like you have an agenda to present yourself as a man of God. (god?)

Your agenda needs to be one that other believers can support, for instance, defending the gospel of Christ, as presented in the bible.

Otherwise it won't be that infrequent an event that someone considers you a "wack-job",,

Sometimes I just don't know what in the world you are saying.

???

Where do you get this stuff??

 

Originally Posted by arthur itis
Here's a quote from John's gospel.

"And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour has come for the Son of Man to be glorified. Truly, truly, I say to you, Unless the grain of wheat falls into the ground and dies, it abides alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit." John 12:24

That is Jesus, going to die on the cross, to give up His own life for us, passing through death and resurrection, becoming a life-giving Spirit to indwell us, making us His fruit, His brothers, His continuation and His counterpart.

 

Arthur:

All life is created. I think we had this discussion earlier - Dejavu. : D

LOL! LOL! LOL!

 

I will rephrase, and yes, I am enlivened by god.

You are created in the likeness and image of god, that is your inheritance. You don't need to become like god, you are like god by virtue of what he is.

Did you not understand the stuff? I got it from the holy spirit. I teach as I am taught by the holy spirit in this moment.

 

Arthur:

Himself. Strange, but true. : D
thedope is no stranger to life.

 

More along the lines of whoever loses his life for my sake shall gain it. To be glorified is not a sacrifice.

 

Yes the evidence is clear, because the way I have repeatedly contradicted you was by just quoting what the bible says.

Well you do consistently teach falsehoods but they are contradictory.

There you go again, just making up falsehoods again.

This tells me you have no idea what the truth is.

This is as good as you can come with to try and refute the truth?

Why would your "unconditional love" wait for an invitation? Is it conditional on an invitation and doesn't that make conditional, your "unconditional love" and thus contradictory?

I have already done so several times but sure, let's take another look at your conditional "unconditional love".

The true Christian love that Jesus spoke of, is a love so great that it would cause you to sacrifice for another but your conditional "unconditional love" only goes up to the point of self sacrifice but doesn't cross that line because we are not to sacrifice. How pathetic your conditional "unconditional love" is, a mere shadow of true christian love.

 

Tell us about you being a stalker.

 

Like thedope says - "That is to give up the separate self." Which is not the same thing as giving up ones life. I truly think Jesus is here comforter to his friends, soothing with sooths not wholly allied with his knowledge! : D That is, omitting to mention the difference between 'dead' and 'dormant'.

 

Now you are really starting to lose it, you can even figure out what day it is and have to ask others.

No, it is not. it saying merely I am not one.

No not at all.

Is your spirit buddy still telling you Satan's lie; you shall not die, is true?

 

Love does not seek it's own.

I desire mercy not sacrifice, how pathetic is that?

 

I observe animals from hiding, the bike?