Strengthen your faith in the bible Christians.

Have you known only love? What understanding? What experience? If god promises love and you have have asked for it, then there must be something suspect in your previous learning that has caused you to ask for something different.

 

OWB:

It's not a fact. Your belief that it is does us all a dishonour, but you most of all.

Arthur:

Not the reverse? If "God" is love, then you're going to have to work on that! : D

Love is love, is love!

 

I don't ask God for things, like "love", as a "thing" to "get" from God. I only want more Christ, who embodies all the positive things in the universe.


"In whom all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge are hidden."
(Colossians 2:3)

"To me, less than the least of all saints, was this grace given to announce to the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ as the gospel" (Ephesians 3:8)

Christ has "unsearchable riches", meaning, that He is everything you need. If you need love, He is love. If you need joy, He is joy. If you need wisdom, He is wisdom. He personifies and embodies all the positive qualities of both divinity and humanity. In Him is our full supply.

A song goes,,"Once it was the blessing
Now it is the Lord
Once it was the feeling
Now it is His word
Once the gift I wanted
Now the Giver own
One I sought for healing
Now Himself alone.

All in all forever, only Christ I'll sing
Everything is in Christ
And Christ is everything.

 

It's easy to misunderstand if you're willing to, which I see that you are,,

What I said is God is love, not the reverse. In other words, because there are so many forms and ways of love, depending on who's doing the "loving", "love" by itself isn't adequate to define "God". I wouldn't, for instance, say simply "love" is God, because it depends on whether this alleged "love" is the genuine article, or simply some air-headed fool's idea of "love", without any real depth or commitment involved. In other words, the love Jesus displayed was of such a commitment that He promises to always be with us, and to never leave us.

As Jesus said,

(John 10:12-14)

God being love does not necessitate any "work", as if we were responsible to "be like God". That was satan's ploy.

We, rather than work to "be like God", are instructed to eat and drink God in, in order to assimilate God into our being, so that God, by His own power of life, can flow through us, permeate us, transform us, making is the same as He is in life and nature, but not in the Godhead, or as an object to be worshiped.

 

Arthur:

Are the positive things ever to embody themselves in your theology?! : D

I suppose there are cases where I do create misunderstanding. But never for long,
and never without increasing understanding in turn! : D

I agree, but for an entirely different reason. : D
In me, love defines itself.

How often do you "allege" your love?! It's not a habit is it? : D

I wouldn't define love as god, because I know love's love. Also, I'm not afraid to love foolishness.

And yet he did. Unwillingly. He wanted to share his will with everyone, but was 'banned'.

The romance of the 'ransom-sacrifice' is over in everyone whose conscience is in their head.

Of course there's no responsibility "to be like God", but then I know there's no necessity for god to be love either! This is why I am qualified to judge this thread. lol!

I have no god to work towards. I work towards celebration ( because my celebration isn't entirely understood! : D ) It is embodied in me as undertstanding, but my will, my immodestly modest will, harder than diamond, it wants more! lol!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS9OO0S5w2k"]YMCA - YouTube

 

If you recall, I said i found only contention and I asked for something different. Love being without condition is beyond what can be taught but we can remove the barriers that we have built against it.

Everything is what I want also.

 

He told his disciples, before he went to the cross that if He didn't leave, He couldn't return. That's why He "left" in death, so that He could return, in resurrection. I'm not talking about the second coming here, but just three days after His crucifixion, He rose out of death, and has been with us ever since, and throughout eternity. There is no end to the resurrection life, the un-ending, uncreated life of God.

I have no idea what you are getting at here. I'm not one who calls the crucifixion the "ransom sacrifice". That's JW-speak. I'm not a JW. I'm a Christian.

 

If he didn't leave the comforter would not come. The comforter the holy spirit.
The holy spirit is christ in spirit. In body he cannot be everywhere he is called.

 

All expressions of love are maximal.

 

Okay there you are, Once again you prove that you don't know what the bible says or at least don't believe it.

 

Yes it is clear you have not read the Bible or don't believe it.

If, now, the good news we declare is in fact veiled, it is veiled among those who are perishing, among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.(2 Corinthians 4:3-4)

 

Is this a difficult question to respond to? Seriously. I am trying to get a sense of whether I should be truly concerned that you are okay.

 

So you are not clear on the effects of your premises.

The passage you quote refers to the shear volume of ignorance. The "god" of this system is the belief in scarcity.

 

I don't just think there is two systems, there are two systems. Once again you do Satan's work by trying to convince others that Satan and his system of things doesn't exist.

If, now, the good news we declare is in fact veiled, it is veiled among those who are perishing, among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.(2 Corinthians 4:3-4)

What you say does does not have any substance you are just tickling the ears in hopes of getting a hearing ear. (2 Timothy 4:2-4)

Where is Christ? He is seated at the right hand of God.

"from now on the Son of man will be sitting at the powerful right hand of God.” (Luke 22:69)
But he, being full of holy spirit, gazed into heaven and caught sight of God’s glory and of Jesus standing at God’s right hand (Acts 7:55)
where the Christ is seated at the right hand of God. (Colossians 3:1)

 

I hope you don't mind if I don't take your word for it. Instead I think I'll take God's word for it.

 

No it is you that is not clear on the effects of your premises as I have many times pointed out to you.

The Scripture I quoted refers to Satan being the god of this system of things". Now because it shows your ignorance of the Bible, you make up some non-sense "interpretation", that has nothing to do with what the Scripture is saying, in order to defend your ignorance.

 

You are supporting the existence of satan. Satan is not a being. god created the world and all that is in it, god is one, not many. You may believe believe in other gods, but there is only one creator. There is no spiritual force trying to trip you up and if there were god does not lead us into temptation, but delivers us from evil.

Your beliefs about the bible are whacked, you get no sympathy for them from me.
Do you see christ?

 

Do you want me to come visit you, you live alone?