Strengthen your faith in the bible Christians.

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  1. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Accept for the condition on the "love" you espouse that it doesn't go as far as sacrifice for others. [​IMG]
     
  2. OlderWaterBrother

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    Satan did not create the Earth, God did but this system of things that we live in is Satan's and although we live in it, we are to be no part of it.

    Since the word god just means a mighty one, Satan easily fits that description as does Jesus but there is only one almighty God and that is Jehovah.
     
  3. OlderWaterBrother

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    Yes that is what the Bible says.
     
  4. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    I was reading the song of solomon until I got to here in the
    Distress of Separation:

    3 I have put off my coat;
    how shall I put it on? I have washed my feet; how shall I defile them?
    4 My beloved put in his hand by the hole of the door,
    and my bowels were moved for him.

    lol!

    I did overcome the language barrier though, and made it to the end. I enjoyed it.

    Not the church, that's for sure!

    Now, I'm off to be as a hart upon a mountain! Happy Halloween! : D
     
  5. arthur itis

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    Originally Posted by arthur itis View Post

    The only indestructible thing is the eternal, uncreated life of God, which cannot be broken. It has no beginning and no end.


    Where are the the trees that have been cut down? Where are the mountains that have been leveled to make way for new development? Where is the land that has been destroyed for mining? commercial farming?

    Where is the ozone, over Antarctica?

    "Things" are always in a state of transition. The entire material universe is vulnerable.

    Even the stars are not "eternal".

    "Lay not up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust corrupt, and thieves break through and steal,,"

    If you're referring to the "material", or the "energy" not being lost, but merely transmuted, you're cheating.

    The original creation was ruined by satan. The creation was restored, in Genesis 1. Even so, this creation will not last. There will be a new heaven, and a new earth.
     
  6. arthur itis

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    It seems as if God's name is bandied about here.

    I just call on Jesus, or "Father".

    Oh, but I guess that's just too damn simple.

    God's very "mysterious", you know,,lol.


    By the way, "Jesus", in Greek, translated into English, is "Jehovah the Savior".


    Jesus is Jehovah.


    God's name was Elohim before His dealings with man. After that, it was Jehovah. However, that was the Old Testament. Jesus is God's coming, hence, Emmanuel, meaning "God with us".

    Matthew 1:23-25
    Isaiah 7:14
    2Corinthians 12:3
    John 1:1
    John 1:14
    John 14:8-10a
    John 14:20
    Voila! The "mystery" has been revealed.
     
  7. thedope

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    Now that you have said all this,

    Spirit is in a state of grace forever. Your true and only reality is spirit, therefore you are in a state of grace forever. What you see is not the truth.
    God did not create the corruptible, you make it through the desire to have it What you see is the nightmare that the children of god have imagined they have become.

    I am talking about truth, not illusion. The world would refresh itself in a moment if man would recall his inheritance in creation. It is the perception of lack that is causing the excesses you see.

    If your precepts call on you to consider yourself guilty, then it is impossible to do gods will. You will instead seek to preserve the idea of satan and crucify innocence all over again. God is not guilty and he is not mistaken in his son. You are not guilty, but you can imagine spirit creatures contesting for your soul because you had misidentified the contents of your own mind.
     
  8. thedope

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    What mystery, it is only a mystery if you haven't heard a reply. Voila!
     
  9. thedope

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    You are insane if you believe you are dead.
     
  10. thedope

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    If you say this world belongs to satan then you honor him. Less mighty is not a sign of strength but relative weakness. Your loyalties are divided.
     
  11. thedope

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    Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Not destroy the earth and replace it with heaven.
     
  12. indydude

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    How depressing. No wonder some crave the apocalypse. Life and the Earth are seen as Satanic. Religion can so easily be corrupted. That's one reason I fear fundamentalists in positions of power. They may push the 'button' of mass destruction thinking its Gods will.
     
  13. OlderWaterBrother

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    Once again you prove that you don't know what the bible says or at least don't believe it.
     
  14. OlderWaterBrother

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    How is the fact that Satan is the ruler of this system of things in anyway an honor to him?

    In what way are my "loyalties" divided?
     
  15. OlderWaterBrother

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    What in the world are you talking about?
     
  16. thedope

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    Brother, what day is it? Take a breath.
     
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    You believe he rules. You cannot serve two masters. Am I clear?
     
  18. thedope

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    You think there are two systems.
    Not so.
    As above so below, as to the right also to the left. Whatever is loosed on earth is also loosed in heaven. Heaven and earth are diametrically opposed perceptions of the same phenomena. The perception of heaven and earth are both created by the mindset that beholds them. If you let the mind that is in christ be in you, you shall see him in all his glory, when we see christ, we shall be like him.
    Where is christ, as we take communion he is in all of us, so where do we see christ, where he is, in your brother, and he in turn sees you. In this world we exist for and with each other, in heaven we are co-creators with god. Your salvation goes through your brother, love him as yourself.
     
  19. Monkey Boy

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    This reminds me the the tranfiguration where the disciples had to be fully awake to see Christ's glory. Wake up o sleeper and let Christ
    's light shine on you.

    Luke 9:27

    [27] I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God."
    [28] About eight days after Jesus said this, he took Peter, John and James with him and went up onto a mountain to pray. [29] As he was praying, the appearance of his face changed, and his clothes became as bright as a flash of lightning. [30] Two men, Moses and Elijah, [31] appeared in glorious splendor, talking with Jesus. They spoke about his departure, which he was about to bring to fulfillment at Jerusalem. [32] Peter and his companions were very sleepy, but when they became fully awake, they saw his glory and the two men standing with him.
     
  20. arthur itis

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    This is an improper translation. The text should read as follows:


    And the following footnote:

    "Binding" and "loosing", through the church, can only be accomplished by those who are one with Christ in the heavens, not independently. Through a proper prayer, praying in oneness with the Spirit of Christ within a believer's spirit, the church can pray God's will to earth. The church does not decide God's will independently, but through fellowship of the Spirit of Christ. Practical and effective prayer, that moves God to act, is always a matter of the Christ within praying to the Christ in the heavens.

    Christ is the real ladder that joins heaven and earth, as typified by Jacob's dream.

    As we pray, we enter into our human spirit, where Christ dwells, and we sense a flow of life, regarding those things which are on the Lord's heart. Continuing to pray, we act as God's ambassadors, representing His interests on earth.

    Prayer is not merely a means of "twisting God's arm" to do things which He has not willed. Prayer is firstly a matter of fellowship with the Lord and with those with whom we are praying. Through the oneness of the Spirit, we can sense, and agree on what the Lord's interests are, in any particular situation.

    Unless the church prays, God's hands are somewhat tied, unable to move, as He imparts authority to the church, on earth. His will is accomplished through the church working in co-ordination with the anointing of the divine life within.
     
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