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Discussion in 'Stoners Lounge' started by smokindude, Feb 10, 2007.

  1. Ebene

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    In this day and age, I'd say the only beliefs that will almost for sure rub off on one's offspring would be political.
     
  2. paintballer687

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    Yeah, this is exactly how I was trying to explain evolution. But differentiating the difference between 'life as a result of probablity' and 'probability resulting in life' is rather difficult.
     
  3. RebelGray

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    my beilefs don't come from parents. i was actualy an atheist for most of my teen years. and i actualy came to believe in god completly on my own. i don't follow any religion, i just have faith. and i hate the modern church just as much as any atheist.
    i'm glad everybody's gone friendly again.
     
  4. paintballer687

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    It's religious too, jewish parents are going to raise a jewish child, it's not always the case but I'd say it's the norm.
     
  5. paintballer687

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    This is pretty close to how I feel; I see the elegance in life and know there must have been a hand in it somewhere, but I don't view that somewhere as a someone. Most religions personify god and I see it more as whatever led to such elegant, intricate laws of nature that govern our universe. I disagree with most major religions, the exception being Islam (but don't get religion confused with culture), but I see it as a story, not as the facts themselves.
     
  6. RebelGray

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    most people think i'm wierd for it, but i think of god as kinda like natures ego. back when i was obsessed with knowing everything, i came up with a theroy that god was composed of matter, energy and time.
     
  7. Ebene

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    I can vouch that most likely a jewish parent will raise a jewish child. But the majority of people that attend my school have different beliefs than their parents'.

    Or it could be teenage rebellion.


    Garren: when did you become Christian? I remember thinking you were crazy back in the day.
     
  8. paintballer687

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    That's actually a pretty good analogy, it's the closest thing I've heard to expressing my thoughts.
     
  9. RebelGray

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    maybe a year ago? i don't really remember. but like i said, i'm not really a "christian"
     
  10. Ebene

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    I'd say the two religions I know most about would be Buddhism and Christianity. Though I have doubts about entirely too many things in Christianity, and just the countless contradictions it has, it feels so natural to believe that there is a higher being.
     
  11. paintballer687

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    Child beliefs are shifting more than in the past but you'd be surprised. We live in the US, a fairly liberal country. In other countries, it straight out doesn't happen. It's sad really.
     
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    For those of you who replied saying that the creation of the earth couldnt have happend "accidentally", try thinking about the fact that the universe is infinite.
    During an infinite amount of time in an infinite space some very improbable things can happen.

    Wow, an incredible amount of bullshit has been said in this thread...
     
  13. RebelGray

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    yeah, i thought of time as the ultimate personifiction of god, the field in which matter and energy did their whole thing. i used to compare it to the hindu Trimurti.

    Bramha(the Source/Creator) = matter
    Vinshu(the Preserver/Indwelling-life) = energey
    Shiva(the Transformer -Destroyer/Creator) = time
    also, i do belive in evolution, but only as adaption, not the origin of life.
     
  14. paintballer687

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    I don't quite feel the same, and while it may be your conciencious feeling, I'd have to suspect it isn't. I don't know how you've grown up but if you've gone to church or had parents that believe the same way, chances are you feel the same way, too. And I'm not saying it's wrong or it's your fault, I'm just saying it's going to be what's natural, it's how you're raised, it's what you know, how could it be anything else?

    I've never had an emphasis on religion while growing up and I know it's part of the reason I feel the way I am today, but it's not the only reason. I've spent more time than you can imagine thinking, researching, etc. and have come down to the set of beliefs I truly believe in.
     
  15. paintballer687

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    Same here. The only logical way would be if a non living object was altered into a living one, which would mean life from nothing, and what would cause such an alteration? The creation of life is really the only sure feeling I have to believe in 'god'.
     
  16. RebelGray

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    yes, but people think that the earth is only about 4.5 billion years old, and life only apeard a couple billion years AFTER that. i think that if we werent already multicellualar when we got here, then it would take alot longer than that for life to not only form, but come as far as we have.
     
  17. Ebene

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    I was about 7 when I first asked my parents to take me to a church, which was a Baptist church. About 7 years later I started going to a nondenominational church. After years of Christianity, and 3 years of a bible history course in addition, I started having doubts. Then I tried transferring to Buddhism, and considered myself one for about a year, but I thought I had to give up too much to become a true Buddhist.

    I tried atheism for a while (because of the contradictions), but I couldn't deny what I believed. So now I found myself a Christian, with tons of doubts and questions, but who doesn't have them?
     
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    a billion years is a long time.
     
  19. Ebene

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    One thing I don't understand is how one can believe in Christianity, and in evolution. I believe in both.

    :-\
     
  20. RebelGray

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    i wrote a story one time that delt with the origin of life,
    here we go:

    "It became clear that we were not the first to come in Gods universe, many planets, and many lives before us. I saw the very first, a planet called Sul-Quatiss. The life he placed there seemed, and looked, so remarkably human. However, as the generations passed, they began to evolve, adapt in accordance to their existence. After several billions of years, they now resembled large three eyed jelly-spheres:
    they had become giant, sentient cells."

    i was stoned as fuck when i wrote that story though.
     
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