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I'm really not bothered. I just don't see why ideology should serve to airbrush the truth. Why be scared of differences?

 

"Analysis of genomes from around the world establishes that there is a biological basis for race, despite the official statements to the contrary of leading social science organizations. An illustration of the point is the fact that with mixed race populations, such as African Americans, geneticists can now track along an individual’s genome, and assign each segment to an African or European ancestor, an exercise that would be impossible if race did not have some basis in biological reality."

NYT Science Editor: Race Is Real

 

Science has nothing to do with ideology or fear.

 

And I bet the deeper you go into native/ethnic territory the more you will find people championing the uniqueness of their own race.

 

One scientists opinion in Time Magazine two years before the publishing of a larger study.

 

Chemistry is the only field of hard science that doesn’t contradict religion. Biology and Physics most certainly do.

 

Science definitely has an ideological impetus. One quite different from say, religion or philosophy. Just look at the kinds of research being done and the technology being developed. It is the principle tool of advanced late Capitalism.

 

Indeed. Wade, and other scientists, would disagree with the studies findings and conclusions.

 

Not scared and not saying we aren't different. I bet you and I look nothing alike, for example. Blue eyes originated in the Northern climes (I think) but for whatever reason we don't seem to care about eye color the same way we care about skin tone and facial characteristics. We could have just as easily based 'race' on eye color. It's all arbitrary.

 

Your nation needs to step up to the mark Eloise. Or I suppose we could have Kim Jong Un or Xi Jinping.

 

One's reasons for committing to science is a different matter than what science is.

But that's semantics, I do see your point. Forgive my own quibbling, if you would.

 

Ah, so its not only a social construct

 

I would.

There is no clear definition of species. Not on ability to interbreed alone

Sub Saharan Africans don't have any Neanderthal DNA.

Basically if we weren't classifying ourselves and it wasn't a very emotionally charged topic. We would classify all humans as the same genus, but not the same species. Or at least not the same subspecies

 

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Homo erectus

 

Well I'm my own race and very likely my own species too

 

I agree with the findings but not his conclusion. Why would the ability to trace genetic variations to one region owe itself entirely to the concept of race as a biological construct? I think it owes itself more to the fact that humans are adaptive and evolutionary creatures and continued to evolve as they migrated around the world.

Which goes back to my argument about clime. Genetic variations can be seen in gradual changes due to clime, not in sharp distinctions between 3 groups of people.

The fact that there is so much variation between people who are lumped into one race is enough to disprove the concept of race for me.

 

I agree with what Meliai has said regarding this being an distinction about where a genome's origin lies, and not the labels assigned to the people within those areas. I point to the recent discovery that the first modern Europeans having dark skin and light colored eyes. First modern Britons had 'dark to black' skin, Cheddar Man DNA analysis reveals

I don't know much about genomes, but I do know that race is in fact a myth by its very nature as well.

I fully reject the concept of race!

 

It's an emotionally charged topic.

There are 3 species of blueberries, 450 subspecies. One can cross breed most of them. They are blueberries, you are not going to give a shit if someone says they arent the same species

 

Is it semantics...Is it biology? Or is it bullshit.

 

Its biology. And its a social construct. But its not just a social construct.

Time is also not merely a human concept.