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Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Fluffernutter, Jul 11, 2009.

  1. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Recycling is an energy intensive manufacturing process. In most cases, it's even more draining than using raw virgin materials. With recycling, you've got to separate all the colored plastics from the clear plastics, and all the paper, glass, and unrecyclable garbage that winds up there.

    The quality of plastics and paper that get recycled diminishes in material quality, each time it's recycled.

    Recycling metal is good because it's been proven that it's easier to melt down scrap metal than it is to mine and process it. The chemical and material quality of metal stays the same when recycled.
     
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  2. Noserider

    Noserider Goofy-Footed Member

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    Can you translate that to Game of Thrones speak?
     
  3. Joshua Tree

    Joshua Tree Remain In Light

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    Socialism is the new Rock 'n' Roll.
     
  4. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    So if you don't recycle anything and just bury it, you actually think that's better for the environment because it takes energy to break plastics down?

    Probably one of the stupidest things I'll read today.

    I admit I don't know any of the science, but to me, breaking down materials to re use is better than leaving it in the ground to just sit for a million years just sitting there. Are you even thinking of the worms? Won't somebody think of the worms.

    That picture of the beach alone is enough of a vision of what would happen if there was no recycling and the alarming thing Is, there is recycling today. Imagine how more mess there'd be without recycling. It would be astronomical.
     
  5. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Nobody is saying that littering is better than recycling. It's just that recycling isn't the be-all end-all problem solver of the world.

    If you keep a landfill contained, it won't contaminate nothing. The methane put off from landfills can generate usable electricity.
     
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  6. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    Yeah but underneath the earth is now unusable so you cannot use the top of it. I know of.. 3 places alone where the foundations of new land structures were built over wastelands and they've sank into the ground etc.

    More and more people are being born. That's another topic for this thread. Too many people. The more people the more waste. It's increasing tenfold, you can't just.... bury it.. We need the land, we need the space. Gotta do something with it. Breaking it down to re use gotta be much benefical than letting it store up and then bury it. Cleaner for the air? Yes, but you're just trading a con for a con the way I see it and personally, I'd rather re use what we can I stead of just tossing it away. Because one day the seas will roll in again you see, and everything that's you've buried will just be washed away and cover what's left of this earth like a cesspool of waste because we never tried to re use or break it down, we just buried it hoping we'd never see it again.

    Kind of like the big garbage ball on Futurama. Just shoot it all into space maybe lol.
     
  7. Noserider

    Noserider Goofy-Footed Member

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    Yup. Not only do they generate energy, when full, nature reclaims the land and they can be used as parks and wildands.

    Landfills are like nuclear power...vilified for unknown reasons.
     
  8. la Principessa

    la Principessa Member since '08

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    That's it. Now you're not coming to Ireland lol
     
  9. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    The difference with other immigrants is that when we come to the US we don't do it for us
    We gonna rock the States!
     
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  10. Ged

    Ged Tits and Thigh Man.

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    Looking forward to the upcoming Socialism World tour.
     
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  11. Joshua Tree

    Joshua Tree Remain In Light

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    J.C. is headlining.
     
  12. McFuddy

    McFuddy Visitor

    ...
    Jesus Christ?
     
  13. Driftrue

    Driftrue Banned

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    Better. Jeremy Corbin.
     
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  14. McFuddy

    McFuddy Visitor

    True. He's rich enough to buy enough wine for everyone, no miracles necessary.
     
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  15. Don't be like that :-/

    Can we do ONE thing without Brits or Americans leading
     
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  16. McFuddy

    McFuddy Visitor

    Nope. :p
     
  17. Sig

    Sig Senior Member

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    Race is not a social construct.
     
  18. tumbling.dice

    tumbling.dice Visitor

    Race exists only in our imaginations. Homo sapiens is the only extant human species.
     
  19. Meliai

    Meliai Members

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    Race is most definitely a social construct.
     
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  20. Ged

    Ged Tits and Thigh Man.

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    Well it's not entirely. Ideologically yes, but different races have different physical characteristics and that's just undeniable. Class is a social construct....
     
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  21. You.
    First wave of arrests.
     
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  22. Sig

    Sig Senior Member

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    Race =/= species. You're talking about two different things.
     
  23. Meliai

    Meliai Members

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    ^those characteristics you speak of change very gradually by clime though, there isnt a sharp difference between all people of one race from all people of another race. There are varying shades of differences as you go from one region of the earth to another

    Edit, @Ged
     
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  24. Sig

    Sig Senior Member

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    Yet they are rooted in biology; in our DNA. No one is arguing we're not all the same species.
     
  25. Meliai

    Meliai Members

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    No one is arguing our physical attributes arent rooted in our DNA either lol, doesnt that go without saying
     
  26. tumbling.dice

    tumbling.dice Visitor

    From Scientific American, February 5, 2016.

    "What the study of complete genomes from different parts of the world has shown is that even between Africa and Europe, for example, there is not a single absolute genetic difference, meaning no single variant where all Africans have one variant and all Europeans another one, even when recent migration is disregarded [italics my own]," Pääbo told Live Science. "It is all a question of differences in how frequent different variants are on different continents and in different regions."

    Race Is a Social Construct, Scientists Argue
     
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  27. Ged

    Ged Tits and Thigh Man.

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    Quibbling over insignificant details. Take a Cornishman and a Somali. They are a different race. No one is saying they are a different species.
     
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  28. McFuddy

    McFuddy Visitor

    This conversation reminds me of the Star Trek episode "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" where there is a species that destroyed themselves because some were white on one side of their bodies and black on the other, while the rest were the same colors just on reverse sides of their bodies. They were clearly all the same race. It was a great social commentary for the time.
     
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  29. Ged

    Ged Tits and Thigh Man.

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    Star Trek is so obviously organized along Socialist/Communist principles.
     
  30. tumbling.dice

    tumbling.dice Visitor

    And that, when you boil it down, is what race is.
     
  31. Meliai

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    And what of someone of both Cornish and Somali descent?

    Humans have always been migratory creatures and that's where the concept of race as a biological construct really starts to break down for me. If you go back far enough, we're all mutts. There's probably not a person on this planet whose lineage is 100% one race/ethnic group
     
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