Star Wars....

Discussion in 'Movies' started by Apples+Oranjes, May 19, 2005.

  1. Sax_Machine

    Sax_Machine saxbend

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    Death Star Canteen anyone?

    (Deep breath sounds) I'll have the penne all'arabbiata.

    You'll need a tray!

    Do you know who I am?

    Do you know who I am?

    This is not a game of who the fuck are you!

    You'll still need a tray!

    I do not need a tray, I am Darth Vader, I can kill you with a single thought!

    Are you Geoff Vader?

    No I am Darth Vader, I run this place!

    You run this place? Are you Mr Stevens?

    Who is Mr Stevens?

    Mr Stevens is my boss!

    No I am Darth Vader, I run the Death Star!

    What's the Death Star?

    This whole place, it's the Death Star and I run it!

    Are you Geoff Vader's Brother? Can I get his autograph?

    etc. etc. Classic Izzard :)
     
  2. tommyb

    tommyb Member

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    In this case 1+1 does not equal two. I think it has to do with the absolute value of a jedi's power. If a sith like Duoku is stronger then Obi or Anakin, like in AOTC, he can take them both. However, once Anakin had developed his power more by the begining of ROTS, he was able to take on Duoku while Obi was crumpled on the floor.

    If they'd both gone after the Emperor, I imagine Obi would have gotten his ass kicked in the first minute. The only reason Obi was able to beat ANakin was his overconfidence and arogance. And Obi wasn't able to kill anakin. The emperor had grown too powerful to be defeated by a jedi - Luke could not. I think Luke knew that the only was was to reach out to his father.

    Anakin brought balance to the force. He begot Luke who was powerful, but not as powerful as the Emperor. The Emperor's over confidence got the best of him. ANakin, who still thinks that he killed Padme, cannot bear to let his son die at the hands of the emperor. He gets a second chance so he commits a selfless act and sacrafices himself (the jedi are selfless). I didn't get this until I saw Return of the Jedi after seeing ROTS.
     
  3. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

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    yeah, but Mace Windu took Palpatine to school [mind you he is THE greatest sabre guy ever, watch the beginning to AOTC to get what i mean]
     
  4. HuckFinn

    HuckFinn Senior Member

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    Again, it was completely preposterous that Vader would have a shred of human compassion left in him, after decades of committing unspeakable atrocities. His instantaneous "redemption" was as ludicrous as his abrupt transformation into a remorseless mass murderer.


    As I said before, Palpatine was behind the entire war, not the mention the previous attempts on Padme's life. Anakin (like you?) was just too dense to put 2 & 2 together.
     
  5. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    The war between the sith and jedi was centuries old so your theory kinda falls apart.

    Whats with the subtle jab? You sure take your 'b' fiction seriously. [​IMG]
     
  6. HuckFinn

    HuckFinn Senior Member

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    Who started this war? I only know what's in the movies, which clearly reveal Palpatine to be the instigator of all the major conflicts in the Republic, as a ruse to consolidate absolute power for himself.
     
  7. tommyb

    tommyb Member

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  8. HuckFinn

    HuckFinn Senior Member

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    I'm sure that most Nazi war criminals loved their own families. I guess murdering millioins of anonymous "pitiful, bickering humans" is no big deal?


    This just shows that he was an entirely selfish bastard from start to finish.
     
  9. tommyb

    tommyb Member

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    I was speaking from his point of view.

    Can't argue with that.

    Could be argued that he was a victim of circumstance. How old he was when he began his training, the death of his mother, his childhood as a slave, the incidious plotting of Papetine. I think what your saying is that he's an evil man and we shouldn't feel sorry for him. I tend to agree - but it is fiction so your guess is as good as mine.

    How much of our personality is upbringing? How much is by choice? Who knows?
     

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