Star Wars: The Last Jedi’

Discussion in 'New Movies' started by hotwater, Dec 17, 2017.

  1. Toggle Almendro

    Toggle Almendro Banned

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    Well, I liked it.

    But I like nearly everything.
     
  2. fraggle_rock

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    Wait... there's no air in space?

    Next you're going to tell me that you can't hear 'pew pew' noises or screaming TIE fighter engines in space either! Please don't tell me that the music of John Williams doesn't naturally occur at emotionally poignant moments in real life... I mean, that would just be heartbreaking.

    And yes, for the record, everything you are saying is what I meant by plot nitpicks.
     
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  3. pensfan13

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    Some people say it' the best star wars movie. I say it' the worst of the 10 motion pictures. It all depends on what you like and what you want to see.
     
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    Fixed my own stupid auto correct bullshit.
     
  5. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I like Han Solo, but I'm a little bit afraid of them just butchering the character. I don't know anything about the movie, so I don't know... Maybe I sound like I'm judging it before I've even seen it. But I think Han Solo was one of the more charismatic figures in the Star Wars universe, to use a marvel term. I'm just afraid it will seem half-assed compared to Harrison Ford. I guess it's a big set of shoes to fill in my opinion. Perhaps I'll stream it just to ease my curiousity (it's probably still in theaters actually... what am I thinking?!) lol :)

    EDIT: yup. still in theaters
     
  6. Toggle Almendro

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    I thought they did a good job with him.

    But like I said, I generally like everything. A sci-fi/fantasy movie has to be pretty bad before I'll dislike it.

    Solo is probably still in theaters but it won't be on the premium screens anymore. The new Jurassic World movie is the current main attraction.

    For what it's worth, the reviews of the 3D conversion on Solo were uniformly bad. So if you see it, there's no point in trying to find it in 3D.
     
  7. Running Horse

    Running Horse A Buddha in hiding from himself

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    A simple continuity of movie logic is not a plot. Yes we all know Star Wars is science fantasy not fiction the whole point was that not every nitpick is a plot nitpick.
     
  8. fraggle_rock

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    And yet they're all meaningless.
     
  9. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Something tells me Billy Dee Williams wont be in Episode 9

    He is 80

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  10. Asmodean

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    Yes. I look forward watching it again in 2D. Not everything was good (some lame plot twists with Emilia Clarkes character come to mind) but how Solo was portrayed was actually not bad at all. Which was one of my concerns in advance as well naturally! But if that's your main concern I say go watch it.
     
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  11. Asmodean

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    Yes, the 3d aspect was a disgrace. It made the movie less enjoyable, not better in any way
     
  12. Asmodean

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    I actually think Clarke didn't add anything special either.
     
  13. McFuddy

    McFuddy Visitor

    Do you think her character has much for her to begin with?
     
  14. Asmodean

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    Maybe not, but it would have been better then to cast someone different. Not the actrice known to pretty much everyone for her role as kaleeshi. It doesn't add shit. Only takes away.
     
  15. Running Horse

    Running Horse A Buddha in hiding from himself

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    You talk about meaning & yet go forth & spend your time & money on pointless films that offer no true benefit to society or to people in general. Instead of working to make a lasting change in the world around us you'd rather go & stare mindlessly at a screen for 2 1/2 hours. So many better endeavors we could all spend our precious time doing. You have a right to behave, believe, & enjoy whatever you want & it is certainly not my nor any others place to tell you no. Don't worry apathy is all the rage these days
     
  16. Asmodean

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    Lol

    Complains about topical societal issues being inserted in Star wars. Then shits on same movies for not offering any true benefit to society and people in general.

    Look dude, you don't have to like it at all. But how you try to convey your perspective is just silly.
     
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  17. Running Horse

    Running Horse A Buddha in hiding from himself

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    Entertaining how when you don't like a particular perspective you choose to downgrade & disregard that perspective. The typical response these days. Not a single person who has proffered any praise for the films in this thread has brought anything to the table backing up that praise just "It makes me feel goods" & "Because its awesome"

    I offer sound rational debate upon the topic, nothing more, nothing less. If that is not to your liking then that's all good & fine but that doesn't make what I say silly. I talk about the propaganda inserted into these films because it simply doesn't belong there. It serves no purpose other than to provide a podium upon which those who hold such misguided beliefs can shout at the rest of us to change our ways. Real change, tangible change isn't brought about by words but by action. Men like Ghandi, Hitler, Jesus, (yes I do believe Jesus existed), the founding fathers of America, Muhammad etc, the thing that all these men had in common was that they used action to inspire those around them to more lofty pursuits be they for good or ill. Each of these men changed the world & we are still feeling the effects of their actions to this day.

    Films are entertainment & we undeniably need such however when that entertainment becomes a blind through which we ignore the more meaningful & important matters it is time to let that thing go. Our world needs us. Our people need us. They do not need our apathy.

    I agree that debating over the plots of a film is silly but only because a film should be written well enough that such debate is not needed.
     
  18. Asmodean

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    Uhm, you realize you're the most guilty of this in this and the Solo thread yourself right? Otherwise maybe reread your posts. I'm not downgrading your perspective. Your concerns trancend this movie. Mine do not. It seems i can enjoy these new movies and you can't. You're the main person in here discrediting others taste because they dig something you don't...

    That's not what i said and i disagree. Debating over a movie (plots or other aspects) isn't silly at al. Not by definition at least
     
  19. Running Horse

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    Not once have I degraded another for their opinion on this or any other thread. Offering examples of flaws in something you or anyone else enjoys is not degrading. It is not my problem if someone chooses to take such statements as a personal attack. Nice try though.

    Yes that is what you said. You claimed that my presentation of valid arguments was silly therefore you must believe that all plot debate is silly. Oh wait I get it. Only silly if you disagree. Got it. Now enough of this inanity back to the topic....
     
  20. fraggle_rock

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    You are not being rational.
    You are being the opposite of rational.
    You are yelling and screaming about the death of culture and how everyone around you is stupid.
    Now you are also talking about Ghandi and Hitler and Jesus for no reason... it's ridiculous.

    Hey, you know what else those people had in common?
    They managed to get other people on their side.
    Usually, a good way to do this is by not telling everyone you're really smart and everyone else is dumb.

    All you have done here is nitpick a movie based on a sense of realism that it wasn't trying to achieve. Seriously, you present yourself as a great, rational intellectual worth listening to (despite the aggression and screaming, I guess), and completely ignore the way TLJ explores, deconstructs and re-evaluates heroism, leadership (and whether or not it is actually more important than heroism), hero worship, legends, villainy, the seductive power of evil, the importance of heritage and a load of other tropes from the other films.This is probably the smartest, most self-aware SW movie in the series.

    Each and every character in this movie explores a different facet of heroism, and there are no spoonfed answers or easy conclusions being made. The problem is that you're so busy hating on irrelevant plot nitpicks that you don't get it.
     
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