Socialism Is The Future

Discussion in 'Socialism' started by unfocusedanakin, Jul 15, 2017.

  1. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    in the woods
    Don't forget to bury it if it's #2.
     
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  2. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    Socialism is the elimination of all cultures, beliefs and ways of life, ultimate goal is to control everyone, even what is permitted to be said, how you must think. To be the dictator. Socialism means you have not future
     
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  3. Vladimir Illich

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    Well said comrade !!!
     
  4. themnax

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    no dictator has ever been a socialist. people are chanting memes instead of looking at reality.
     
  5. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    ok what do you think socialism is? I live in Canada and know exactly what it is. It is lies spewed out by the government where by they try to present this utopian society, It is a collection of ideals and morals that become the collective thought. To deviate from it, you are pond scum. Individualism is unacceptable. You are silenced. Individual thought is unacceptable, the collective thought is the dictate. People become afraid to speak up about the wrongs the government is doing. It is happening on the left right now in the USA. This happened in Canada 40+ years ago. You do not want what our left government says we have, what they present Canada as being. it is a lie.
     
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    LOL @ this guy who thinks he can rewrite the history of the 20th century on a small internet forum
     
  7. Vladimir Illich

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    You know nothing of the sort !!! - at no time in history could Canada ever be described as 'Socialist'. It may be 'Liberal' as opposed to 'Conservative', but that is nowhere near being 'Socialist !!!
     
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  8. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    Ummm, she kinda lived there all her life and has to deal with it personally on a daily basis... If that ain't "knowing" then there's no such thing as knowledge.
     
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    lol*. You are at best a liar. Are you trying to say socialists are for individual or collective thought? Let’s hear some lies from you. How about you answer all the questions I asked you in the other thread here? Shall I ask them again here?

    So you can dictate like the left wing socialist government does. Power to the people is not really power to the people. Just ask the red army who slaughtered people who didnt fall in line to collective thought.


    lol. Are you trying to tell me that Lenin/Marxist isn’t socialist, communist, liberal in Canada? Or that authoritarianism aren’t socialists? One thing you do not understand, or feign ignorance like so called liberal party in Canada does, is that trudeau sr. Was a supporter of Russia, admired Russia greatly. Cuba and China as well. Loved Lenin, like you. Loved China, like you, loved cuban dictator, like you. Are you trying to tell me that socialism is about individual thought or collective thought?. Collective thought is what is permitted here and I can assure you. Socialism does not bring power to the people, it brings in a dictatorship, an authoritarian. A man who admitted he was a communist, a Lenin Marxist while in russia but had no hope of winning elections under that party, so went with liberal because it was the same shit, just a different name, The attitude of, if people here don’t like it, they had simply better get use to it, which Trudeau Jr. can be quoted as saying. Both of them. Every liberal party leader we have had since sr. Worked directly for trudeau sr. The communist party in Canada had zero hope here, so they hid under the liberal Party. They are Lenin/Marxist. Today they call it ethical socialism. A moral compass that all MUST adhere too. Telling the people what is the correct way of thinking. Pro Russia and other dictatoship countries that you Also are for. It has been like this for over 45 years. Are you a socialist, a true one?
     
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  10. 6-eyed shaman

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    A true socialist nation would be much worse than what Canada is putting up with right now

    Socialism is communism on training wheels.
     
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    That's a sad condition to be forced to live under. :-(
     
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    well that is frightening, isn’t it? We the people just put up with it. Silenced! What does that tell you? Let’s play on people, Let’s pose these questions, What is the best life in a just society? (Utopian socialists aka ethical socialist) Socialism is simply a secular religion when it comes down to it. It tells you to sacrifice your life for others. Being a slave is a good thing in socialism. It gives you an egalitarian ideal to sacrifice and live for People you don’t know, but not for your own family or your own well being. No individualism allowed. Individuals are selfish.
     
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    How Socialism Destroyed Venezuela
    The mass starvation and exodus faced by Venezuelans are the natural consequence of the socialist policies implemented by dictators Hugo Chavez and Nicolas Maduro

    Opinion | Yes, Venezuela Is a Socialist Catastrophe
    On Venezuela, what you’re likelier to read is that the crisis is the product of corruption, cronyism, populism, authoritarianism, resource-dependency, U.S. sanctions and trickery, even the residues of capitalism itself. Just don’t mention the S-word because, you know, it’s working really well in Denmark.

    Curiously, that’s not how the Venezuelan regime’s admirers used to speak of “21st century socialism,” as it was dubbed by Hugo Chávez. The late Venezuelan president, said Britain’s Jeremy Corbyn, “showed us there is a different and a better way of doing things. It’s called socialism, it’s called social justice, and it’s something that Venezuela has made a big step toward.” Noam Chomsky was similarly enthusiastic when he praised Chávez in 2009. “What’s so exciting about at last visiting Venezuela,” the linguist said, is that “I can see how a better world is being created and can speak to the person who’s inspired it.”

    Sounds great where do I sign up :smirk:
     
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    Maybe you and I could start a socialist exchange program for Bernie babies. Send them to Venezuela, Cuba, or North Korea for at least 6 months in a socialist economy to straighten them out.
     
  15. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    It's very sad what those hijueputas did to Venezuela. Y a Cuba también. The general population really fell for it at first. Hook, line, and sinker. Luego se llevaron todo el oro. The people were left with only broken dreams. Of course that doesn't stop some people from thinking it's a great idea to remove the opportunity for the population to accrue riches. Just the government officials who confiscate and hoard it until it runs out.
     
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    A month in Cuba turned out to be quite fun. But also sad. The people's expectations are super low so they can enjoy some happiness. There's a super wide disparity between the few rich and the masses.
     
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    Living there all her life doesn't necessarily mean much. There are wing nuts who live here in the U.S. all their lives and have really skewed views of what our system is like.
     
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    are you implying I am a wing nut? The only arguments you have had with me, your only arguments has been, with me to give personal opinions on my personality, laced with insults and little to no opinion With facts on the topic at hand. The only argument you have had with any opposition is you are on the bad side, you are right wing, you are evil. You even told unfocused he was joining the right, simply by debating with people and agreeing with some people on certain matters. But you had to attempt to shame him. Brilliant!

    This is another thing socialism is famous for. Try to discredit people Who oppose by labelling opposition. Just another tactic is attempts to silence. That one is racist, that one is crazy, they don’t know what we are trying to do here. That one is selfish, that one is Christian, that one is Jewish, they one has no moral compass. We are the moral ones, they are the immoral. We have the numbers, we have the power. We are the righteous.

    I know exactly what you, and the left socialists are trying to do. I know exactly what socialists do and how they try to silence people by shaming them, or trying to. Socialists are just a collective thought, nothing individual about them. You are either with us or against us. Everything is black and white. Stick to the plan, listen to the left propaganda machine. Reject all and every right wing news sources. Believe all left wing sources tell you. Be a good comrade, be a good soldier, be a good robot for The Dream of a utopian society. That is what the left is trying to create in the USA! All that will be left in the end is disillusioned people and broken dreams who are quiet, because they will realize that their voice, their outrage, their screaming, their violence created it. They have to continue to be a good robot, a good comrade, and follow the crowd.it is all they know how to do.
     
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  19. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    That's a mean accusation.
     
  20. Vladimir Illich

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    There's a saying we have this side of the 'pond' - "if the cap fits, wear it" !!!
     
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