Socialism is like life in a pandemic

strange isn’t it? Socialists criticizing and accusing Trump of colluding with Russia while they show their support of Stalin and Lenin as well as celebrating it. Displaying that flag proudly and playing the anthem in this thread. Supporting communism! Supporting a brutal and sick regime. Pretty scary imo. It is sick.

makes one think, or realize how far people on the left are willing or wanting to go to enforce this way of thinking. So far left, some of them are, and that is the vocal ones who will enforce through bullying or shaming others to have their views accepted by a group. and become the fake middle left. If you aren’t with us, you are against us attitude.

Bob Rae, when he was premier in my province, you wouldn’t believe the state he left this province in and the laws he changed, what those changes brought about. It was damn frightening. Canadians of all colours who rose up against were called racist and nationalists. He ran with his tail between his legs, left office but is still in politics. It was a nightmare. The socialists have done a bang up job of removing power from the people and putting more power in the feds. And yes, the bob rae government said, “but we didn’t mean for this to happen”. Even today it is like he doesn’t acknowledge what he did and where he went terribly wrong in his political bs. They tried to back pedal, brush it off, but the people weren’t having it, Wynn is another socialist parasite we had.

 

When the trolls get trolled
Haha

 

hardly envy! Why would I envy the hammer and sickle? You are the one who posted it, not I! And that, this above is your response to me saying beware of the hammer and sickle under the guise of the good guy socialist? As you post that flag and play that anthem? Your true colours are showing here. If you helped the middle and poor, why would they run from you?

 

Didn't like that piece of music, sing this one instead !!!

 

you think you are a troll? The one who believes the old should die? Funny, about the most honest representative of yourself was there. Now you pretend to be a troll.

 

6, That is another tactic I noticed used to discredit opposing views online by the left, Call the person in opposition a troll, in order, in an attempt to discredit them and all they have pointed out, based on historical facts. A way, an attempt to wipe out history, through this means.

oh don’t listen to that person, they are a troll. Well, I am not! Shrug*. But calling someone a troll, and then pretending you are trolling is rather silly, imo.

 

sorry, don’t know the words Vlad! Don’t want to either. Don’t speak the language, do you? When you can actually hold an argument get back to me. I had no desire to click play as I don’t want for youtube to pay the person who posted it any money. Good to know you are supporting and promoting your cause, I suppose. Not for me, thanks

 

But 6 Eyes is a troll... Has been for quite some time. The majority of his posts are meant to trigger those he doesn't agree with.

Maybe you haven't been here long enough to know this... Maybe you just ignore it. But... Yeah, 6 Eyes is trolling.

 

So righteous :-D

 

Who in the hell is supporting Stalin and Lenin? Is this imaginary? Am I awake?

 

Everything Ms Beach-ball says sounds exactly what greedy capitalists do in or out of power. It's obvious in this grotesquely out of balance system running here now where millionaires and billionaires have most of the money, most of the riches extant. While children starve and people attempt to live on paltry wages.

 

Yeah but at least he doesn't hate old people like @Meliai does. Such a callous person.
Criminal, it is! Criminal!

 

Who is this meliai person though
From here on out I shall only be known as "The One Who Believes the Old Should Die"

 

She's also known as Malicious Mel (which should tell you enough! )

 

It tells you I'm motherfucking malicious
to old people

 

I think this virus has shown the true heart of capitalism and how unsustainable is honestly is when done in the American style. We would rather people die than the rich suffer. And it's not like a house fire or war where a fireman needs to make that choice. It's just the 1% upset.

Think about how many recessions have come in your lifetime and how they always follow the same time line. A few years of growth and the media saying it can never happen again so buy everything you can. That was what I was told in my high school economics class a few years prior the last rescission. About 2/3 of the time is "recovery" or flat out recessions where work is very hard to find even if you have skills. The American model only works for a few years at the expense of most.

What is the longest period of time America has worked how it's supposed to economically?
It's actually extreme peaks and valleys and they only see one part of that graph.

Let's use the last rescission as an example. That was about 10 years ago and all the CEO's got golden parachutes. Now with an even worse one I promise all the CEO's have been paid while all the rest are laid off. So there is money for these multi-million dollar checks the average employee is laid off before they would need to be otherwise. Capitalism has said their contribution matters more and without them there would have been zero profit. So lays offs are part of the norm. What else can we do? Be socialists with no growth ever and bread lines of course. In the end your job "does not owe you anything" as the right wing capitalist would say. They were nice enough to pay you something and you need to be an adult and adapt to the market as they have.

I kind of agree. I am in favor of a mixed market and not extreme socialism which might not even have money or social rankings. But I do not agree with the American model where a logical view is taken to cruel extremes.

Capitalists want you think that a rescission is the fault of regulation. If we just let everyone do anything whenever they wanted and expected the government to only provide a military (the standard right wing opinion I think) there would always be growth and people would naturally get paid high wages. It's because we asked too much of the market that it collapsed. Things like mandatory minimum wage have forced lays off. If we allowed people to be paid $1 an hour at least it's a job.

There is no competition for wages in many jobs. If you look at the job posting it will say the salary is "competitive with industry standards". That means it's slightly above minimum wage and they will always remind how kind they are pay that extra 40 cents an hour because they don't have to. Capitalism actually leads people to be greedy with others. I could pay the guy $3 an hour more and not 40 cents but then I personally don't have $2.60 and I am the one offering a job and paying all the tax and insurance etc so I deserve it more.

It is common for the Libertarian and Conservative to say they "want everyone to be a millionaire". What a silly thing to say because it's impossible and it would devalue a million dollars. It would make it like Germany post WW1 where a wheel barrow of cash was needed to buy groceries. But theses are the views of the people who fight socialism the most. They truly think money is a limitless resource that anyone can have. So it's a tremendous insult to think someone would "take" it from them.

Empty shelves are mostly an American thing in these times. Norway for example is doing fine with that. You know a socialist country with legal gun ownership and tax rate much higher than needed for better American public services. It is their selfish capitalist nature that thinks only of themselves. You can sell your goods at a markup and take care of your clan first. All the hoarders caught and interviewed have expressed right wing free market views NOT left wing socialist views. Their personal choice has affected the market. It is not the choice of a government you paid tax to (socialism).

If socialists had caused this you would see more people sharing toilet paper. Robin Hood style we will steal from the billion dollar coronation Wal Mart and give it the poor who can not afford it in this time of need. What you do is it going for way above market on Ebay and Amazon. Or at least you did until some market regulation stopped it.

Cuba is Communist not even a mixed market social democracy and they still manage this.
“Humanitarian Solidarity”: Even Under U.S. Sanctions, Cuba Sends Doctor Brigade to Italy and More | Democracy Now!

There is a morality in socialism that is impossible in capitalism. Each have illogical extremes that can violate people's life but one is in theory nicer.

 

Oh look, UN Socialists totally know how to manage a globalist economy.

Since y'all praise the UN. That totally explains why they keep mismanaging funds, and have roughly 30 million left in reserves at this time. Thanks of course to socialistic spending habits. Now with the coronavirus, they're begging for more

Full article

/https://www.un.org/en/ga/fifth/74/s...11_Item_137_Financial_Situation_USG_DMSPC.pdf

 

If you word it that way, then you'd agree that gluing "democratic" in front of words to form phases like: Democratic communism, democratic capitalism, democratic nazism, democratic Sharia law, democratic libertarianism, democratic authoritarianism, democratic monarchy, and so on doesn't change the meaning of any of these words. Therefore you'd also agree with me that sticking "Democratic" in front of Socialism won't change the definition of the word either.

So why did you bother posting such propaganda from Occupy Democrats?

Common traits among socialist leaders

America was very lucky and blessed that the democrats have once again stacked the deck against Bernie Sanders out of the 2020 election, similar to how they cheated him out of an honest victory in 2016. We could've had an authoritarian socialist society where everyone outside the political class suffers in equal poverty.

 

They'll go on about how fascist and right-wing dictatorships are horrible, but will act all quiet when the human rights brutalities of far-left dictatorships are brought up. Or worse, they'll march in solidarity under such emblems of tyranny, and play communist anthems. It appears the people who suffered in gulags don't matter to them. Clearly it's double standards.

Racism and socialism are the ugliest versions of collectivism.