Social Conservativism RETARDS Human Progress

I can't believe that people like this dude actually exist. But, alas!

As far as Bush is concerned. I am a non-violent person and wish no harm on him, but I wish he would, for the sake of the nation, step down and ask half his staff : Rumsfeld, Cheney, Rice, etc. to step down with him and allow whomever would be next in line to interim until 2008.

 

Lib, FedUp,
Come on guys, cut the kid up there some slack. His parents were Reaganites...He was hearing that conservative bullshit since he was born. He's obviously taken a wrong turn on the way to one of his favorite conservative sites like "NazisforJebBush2008.com"

(haven't you guys reloaded yet?......yes?....oh good....carry on..)

 

I'm speechless....................

 

Abortion could have equally spared the lives and dignities of several million Vietnamese and Cambodian innocents, Afghani and Iraqi innocents, and countless Latin Americans whom successive warmongering US leaders (and their administrations) have seen fit to terrorise, bomb to perdition and economically disenfranchise over the past half century (with more to come as things are).

Think about it!

 

About the war---think we'd be there if their only export was asparagus?

 

I don't.

 

One word can be used to sum up leftist thought: cynicism. Call me ignorant, and it makes no difference: the truth is winning, as it should.

 

So naive!

 

Exactly. Iraq has the second largest oil reserves in the world, right behind Saudi Arabia. It's no coincidence that we're in Iraq and not some other place, such as Sudan, where hundreds of thousands are being slaughtered.

 

So cynical. Thanks for illustrating my point.

 

Well, just like YOU guys have grown up listening to leftist bullshit!

 

You are truly deluded. We all grew up listening to the same mainstream rubbish you so gullibly swallow without question. The difference is that we have made an effort to scrutinise the practices and propaganda of our government by researching matters for ourselves and have discovered many of the frightening truths they seek to keep from public perception.

You would be well advised to drop the scripted talking points and actually start becoming informed. Those in power have no left-right issues clouding their agenda, merely a globalist objective of control and profit at any cost.

The realisation will be all the worse for you if you dont wake up now and prepare for the future hardships in store for you.

 

Yeah, "becoming informed" as in swallowing ANOTHER agenda!

 

I suppose the cheap gas prices are evidence this "war for oil" is a huge success.

 

Justwow, like the Bush administration you think if your repeat it a number of times it will become the truth, not so, some of us know what the truth actually is. This raise in gas and oil prices is just that... a reward for those that support this administration, the New American Century folks and their stock holders. And no matter how the world eventually settles down into a peaceful state somewhere, and somehow down the line if these folks are still in power, they will still want to see their profits and return on investments. They will never sacrifice anything in benefit of the world good.

 

Record profits for oil companies, yes. So, WHY are the gas prices expensive? If the Bush's really were such good friends with the Arab oilmen, and went to war in Iraq only to make these profits, the gas prices would not be this high.

Could it be that the reasons we are in Iraq is not as tied in with big oil as people think?

The reason people think this administration repeats lies over and over so they will become the truth is because they may actually be telling the truth that some people DONT want to accept! And so big oil is used as a convienient way to vilify this president. Yes, big oil is profiting from the war. But again, then why the high prices? You'd think they lower them to forestall suspicion, if that was really what the war was all about. No, again I say that big oil is not the reason we are there.

 

Gas prices are remaining high in part because the demand for oil exceeds supply in China, among other factors. The US has been coveting Iraq's oil for decades-now it has it. Iraq has the second largest oil reserves in the world, just behind Saudi Arabia. If we were really concerned about 'morality' or human rights being violated, or even terrorism, we would have invaded Sudan instead and put a stop to the enslavement and slaughter of hundreds of thousands of Christians. Sudan's government makes Saddam Hussein look like a saint. Sudan's poor, though, that's its problem. The US couldn't give a damn about human beings. It's all about money and oil, period.

 

We are not in Sudan because our military is stretched thin around the world, we have a war to complete in Iraq, and because Sudan is not a threat to other countries.
But it is true we should do something about Sudan and all of Africa.

 

Iraq wasn't a threat to anybody. We've vastly increased the terrorism in that part of the world and totally destabilized and wrecked Iraq by the invasion, which had absolutely not the slightest thing to do with Iraq being a threat to anybody. Iraq being a 'threat' was just a pretense to invade the country. If Iraq hadn't been oil rich, we wouldn't have got anywhere near the place. The real terrorists were in Afghanistan-instead of doing careful intelligence work to find and capture the real terrorists in Afghanistan, we just bombed the country indiscriminately, killing thousands of innocent people, thus allowing the terrorist leaders (such as bin Laden)to escape.

 

I couldn't disagree more. Iraq was a threat not only because it was led by a madman, but also because it would have soon to become led by the madman's own mad sons!

We are STABILIZING Iraq. Look at how this new government is forming. Look at the elections. Look how proud the Iraqi's are to be free. Because of these people, the insurgency will fail in time, and Iraq will become unlike any middle eastern country that has ever been seen.

True, there has been a huge increase in terrorism in Iraq since the invasion. Because they know if we win, their ideals will no longer resonate with the Iraqi people! So, we'd better win, haven't we?

Oil had nothing to do with us invading. There are countless other combinations of actions the Bush administration could have taken if this was the case, and spared themselves of the controversy as well.

The real terrorists are indeed in Iraq as well as Afganistan. Look at Zarqawi before his death. We did not just bomb Afganistan indiscriminately, we have been fighting an advanced and protracted campaign against the terrorists for five years, with the help of the Pakistani military. And look at Afganistan now. I dont think anyone ten years ago would have believed there would be as much freedomn there as there is now. It's true there is a lot of work that must be done to help that country, and thanks to our actions there is at least a hope of that happening.

And we have not allowed bin laden to escape, as the campaign against him goes on. And look at what he's been reduced to. And because of Bush and the Patriot Act, he has not succeeded in striking us again! (And yet there are still people opposed to the Patriot Act!)