hah, in the generalized sense. many liberals are called "free-thinkers" for a reason; and many liberals also have conservative values when it pertains to certain things (like family). What you're referring to are the hard-line leftists, and the strict right, when in fact, the majority of the US is moderate left or right. Libertine posted this thread to trash the bemusingly archaic-minded far right, and I'm in 100% agreement. piss on those ignorant f@cks. It's because of them that our medical prowess is eclipsed by Sweden, Norway, and Switzerland.
Pressed_rat, Why surrender your views and ideology to the corporate media when you can defend them? Why let the corporate media misrepresent and manipulate your views, and ideology when you can defend them? Abandoning the Left and Right paradigm just because corporations and elites use it control and deceive the masses to serve their insane self-interests sounds very silly to me, why let them win? Why accept defeat when you can revolt and educate the masses so they cannot fall for such simple deception and control. Democracy, without education that teaches people how to think instead of what to think is very useless.
Public schooling is not education, though. It's indoctrination. The large majority of the population has been through the public school system, which correlates with the number of people unable to think critically and objectively. Public schooling makes people one thing, which is good cogs for the system. The REAL goal of the public education system in America is not to teach, much less "educate." It's to rob children of their individuality and their creativity, and make them think like everyone else. Or rather NOT think at all. So what exactly is "education." As far as "democracy" goes... does anyone even know what that word translates to in Latin?
I didn't read the article, so this might be off target a bit. But why shoudln't people be allowed to be intolerant, regardless of their race or religion? I don't think people should have to sue to be intolerant, because I feel that people have the constitutional right to be intolerant if they want. People also have the right to form an opinion on people based on the words and actions of others. If a person is a racist bigot, then that's who they are, and that's how they will be judged by the majority of people. They will be exposed to all for who they are. There is nothing more fascistic than "hate crime" laws dealing with written or spoken words.
Do you know how to read? Maybe you simply have the reading comprehension skills of a third grader. Please tell me where I stated that. No, of course sex in itself is not decadent. Sex in itself is a beautiful thing when you love someone and are devoted to that person. Sex as sold by the corporate media is decadent trash aimed at corrupting the minds of the young in the name of big money capitalism (which libs are supposedly against). It's decadent when you have 11 year olds emulating airheaded sluts like Britney Spears and giving head with as much ease as a Pez dispenser dispensing candy.
A person can be intolerant all they like in their personal life, but not in the public arena. As for hate speech in a intelligent society such elements will be naturally outcasted. You won't even need laws.
So its only considered free speech as long as it offends no one. What about if in public debate I want to call Anarchist the scourge of the earth?(only for example)
The intent of the existing public school system is to produce obedient and unthinking workers for the capitalistic system. I see public schools arguing bullying is good for children to get them ready for the future. Lol, to be bullied by their employers. Nevertheless, every now and then the public school system produces a free mind. The public school systems fails to teach people how to think, but it does teach people how to read and write. If it was not for the public school system illiteracy will be very high. The goal should not be abolishing the public school system. The goal should be the improvement of it. Without it, only the rich and very wealthy will be able to get an education. . Yes, the capitalistic, consumer, and irrational mind set. Learning to see things for what they really are, instead of what they should be or how we should see things. Does it matter?
I think, we all know what hate speech is.... Free speech includes the right to offend not hate. I think hate speech laws only exist because society is not mature and intelligent enough yet... I do not have anything against hate speech as long such speech is not acted on to harm and abuse others physically. Go a head it is your right, but don't be offended when you are countered.
I didn't think he was. Free speech...You can preach all the hatred you want in this country, just look at Jerry Fallwell.
Social Conservatives have to seriously be the most heartless, selfish, and ridiculously condescending bunch of goddamned fascist assholes that ever lived. They want the government to get out of the monopolies of big business and into the uteruses of women and the bedrooms of gays. Fuck these hypocritical hate-mongering, greed-mongering, war-mongering, religion-mongering fuckers! I am sick to my stomach to even hear a conservative speak. How can these people defend this puke invested philosophy wallowing with the maggots of racism, sexism, homophobia, hatred for the poor and bigotry towards non-religious "immoral sinners"??? And these people claim to be speaking for "Jesus" ? WTF? Social conservatism is a SEVERE CANCER ON SOCIETY!
See, that's the problem. The conservatives take over and the ordinary, every day men and women "yawn" and continue to serve their masters. I am glad the Founding Fathers, MLK Jr. and Rosa Parks didn't have YOUR enthusiasm. If there is one thing as bad as Social Conservatism it's APATHY.