So God help us in the next four years.

It seems everytime a republican wants to instill fear they either bring up Islamic terrorists or abortion.

Thing is abortion can and does happen spontaneously for biological reasons, should we then blame the mother because her body aborted?

As to Islamic terrorists, there are so many terrorists in the world today, it's hard to blame a single religion for acts of violence made soley in the name of any one religion, and if the truth be known...God is not interested in our power grabs, he/she probably sanctions none of them. I am actually of the opinion most of the acts of terrorism are corporate based.

 

So, you brought up religion and admit you're a Christian - I didn't

And you believe abortion isn't murder because it's a ''man made'' law?

(Man has been wrong many many times before)

And you been taught the atheistic idea a fetus is not a human (look up the word ''fetus'', it's a human life)

If you are a Christian, beyond just a label of being one....you know in your heart, by the Holy Spirit, that abortion is wrong and it is murder.

It's wrong - it's insane - it's murder - and you know it is deep down inside.

And as far as Obama being a ''Christian'' and being Pro-Life?

You're wrong again - Obama is Pro-Choice.

And as far as Obama being a ''Christian''....he's about a christian as a KKK member...they say they're christian too. Just because you say you're a Christian, doesn't automatically make you a Christian.

Have you forgotten Obama sat in the a so called ''church'' of the racist anti-American Pastor Jeremiah Wright for 20 years and when the public found out a racist anti-American wacko - only then he renounced HIS pastor. A little too late if you ask me.

Also, Hitler claimed to be a ''christian.'' (and he certainly wasn't)

Many people claim to be ''christian'' and are not - so, don't be easily fooled, my friend.

 

So who decides which church we attend is allowable?

 

Since Jesus is dead, who actually guides our religious proclivities? Do we rely on a party to tell us one mindset is better than another? You haven't addressed the fact that biology can cause abortion.

 

Godwin's Law: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."

Congratulations, Psychedelic Rocker!

 

So if abortion is murder, then what should the punishment be? You really want to put all these young women away for life?

 

What responsibility do the young men that fertilized those eggs have?

 

That probably hinges on their party affiliation. lol

 

According to you...but not to millions and millions of Christians.

No one said anything that would lead to a question like that.

Only a Nazi mentality would believe abortion isn't murder.

Plus, I don't give a crap about what Godwin thinks...lol

who ever he is?...lol

 

What would you want, if someone murdered you?

 

I would be incapable of wanting if someone murdered me.

 

I said ''if''...it was hypothetical question.

 

This is not an acceptable means of furthering your argument. You seem bent on dragging people into a flame war.

 

Flame war?...no, that was your department by adding you silly little Godwin comment...

plus, my conversation was with zoomie, not you.

I think you dragged yourself into this.

 

That was me, not stinkfoot. And I was simply pointing out that you're a total retard - didn't mean to start a flamewar about it.

 

It's no more acceptable to drag zoomie or anyone else into that level of exchange than it is to drag me into it. You are moving dangerously close to personal attacks by your choice of words. There's nothing wrong with having strong convictions in such ethical matters but please at least pretend to respect other people's points of view that may not mesh with your own.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander... this is not at all acceptable either. If you cannot defend your opinion without calling names then please refrain from participation.

Thank you

 

deleted by me.

 

I think I addressed that... your help isn't needed but thanks ever so much.

Next bit of flame is going to result in a vacation.
Peace.

 

Once again PR you are WRONG. I never said I was a Christian. I bought up religion because it is part and parcel the reason why you are so full of hate. Anyone here who knows me (and I bet gardener was chuckling like a schoolgirl) knows I am somewhere between a dedicated Pagan earth-worshipper and an atheist-leaning Socialist. But once again you judge me and make assumptions. Really bad choice. Kind of like thinking you can do and say whatever you want on this site without consequence. You're quite adept at batting ZERO. Work on that, huh?

You should learn to read and then do it. You sound like one of those morons running around claiming the president-elect is a Muslim and wasn't born in the US and therefore isn't eligible for public office. And they are just as incorrect. Work on that too, huh?

Obama has adopted a Pro-Choice position because that is the traditional stance of his party. Personally he is Pro-Life but his opinion does not belong in the White House. He puts the needs of his country before his personal opinion. Kind of a new idea, huh? I bet you think that makes him a poor, poor Christian. Good thing it's God's job, NOT YOURS to judge him then, isn't it?

You mean racist anti-white, right? Why don't you and the rest of the conservative Christians go on national TV and call him "just another ******". It's what you want to do and at least it will be honest and open, no matter how unsavory. Hiding your little secrets in back rooms is totally cowardly. The Klansmen who live in my county are at LEAST honest about who they are. Yeah, I have to deal with people like you every day and I just shake my head and walk away.

Trust me, I'm neither fooled nor your friend. I knew who and what you were from your first response and I tried to get you to say it. Go back and read. You just didn't have the fortitude to admit your little agenda until after I called you out and you mistakenly thought I claimed to be a Christian.

This is my country too even though I don't pray to your God. You can use them to try to get a stooge elected, but your religious beliefs have no place in our government. And that really burns your butt, doesn't it? You just don't have the guts to stand up and say that in your little world only God-Fearing, Gun-Toting, White people should live in our White House. And that's a shame because there would be a lot fewer of you if you did.

Get over it.

 

Jesus didn't die on the cross?