Smoking

Discussion in 'Men's Issues' started by Jokerzilla, May 6, 2009.

  1. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Lolz, hokay, have fun with that.


    And as a former smoker I can say that no there really is no way to avoid it, it makes all of your clothes and hair smell like crap constantly.

    And smoking does make food taste worse, it's not just a general observance in the population, it's a scientific fact. You constantly have smoke going over your taste buds and into your nose, and smoking makes a layer of mucus stick to your tongue. I used to smoke, and when you quit food does in fact taste better.
     
  2. freeinalaska

    freeinalaska Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Famous last words. I said it thirty years ago and I've heard this from my own son and daughter.

    Really very few people can smoke tobacco occasionally or for just a short time.

    Do youself a favor and just quit now. Spare yourself the battle of fighting the addiction in ten or twenty years.
     
  3. mmg

    mmg fish out of water

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    i hate myself and want to die... roll me another cigarette before i forget.
     
  4. zombiewolf

    zombiewolf Senior Member

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    Albert Einstein, the world's greatest scientist ever with his inseparable pipe.

    Thomas Alva Edison (1847 - 1931), the inventor of the phonograph, the light bulb and a lot more.

    Alexander Graham Bell (1847 - 1922)

    Physicist J. Robert Oppenheimer (1904 - 1967). No doubt that he played with a deadly toy, however, his most famous quote has nothing to do with his smoking habit:

    "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."

    He quoted this from the Bhagavad Gita upon witnessing the first atomic detonation by mankind on 16 July 1945.

    The world famous American astronomer Edwin Hubble (1889 - 1953).
    Warning: Smoking may cause the universe to expand.

    Founder of psychoanalysis, Austrian physician Sigmund Freud (1856 - 1939), gave the World new insights concerning the unconscious mind, neurology, sexual desires and more.

    British Egyptologist/archaeologist Howard Carter, the man who discovered Tutankhamun's tomb in 1922.

    Bartlett Joshua ('BJ') Palmer (1881 - 1961), the developer of the science of chiropractic.

    Maybe you've got to read it twice, but this is possibly his best quote:

    "If you are in the right, you can afford to keep your temper. If you are in the wrong, you cannot afford to lose it."

    images here...http://www.jusonline.nl/smokers/gallery01.html

    ZW :sifone:
     
  5. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Great job, lists a bunch of famous people who smoked in a time where nearly 1/2 of people did before the real health effects of tobacco became apparent because if Einstein did it, hell it's gotta be cool
     
  6. zombiewolf

    zombiewolf Senior Member

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    Who said anything about cool? If you smoke because you think it's cool you have a different kind of problem. ( low self esteem?)
    Nicotine has been shown to increase mental capacity

    http://content.karger.com/produktedb/produkte.asp?typ=fulltext&file=NPS2006053003115



    Abstract Acute nicotine has been found to improve task performance in smokers after smoking abstinence, but the attentional processes mediating these improvements are unclear. Since scalp-recorded event-related potentials (ERPs) have been shown to be sensitive indicators of selective attention, the effects of acutely administered nicotine were examined on ERPs and concomitant behavioural performance measures in an auditory selective attention task. Ten (6 males) overnight smoking-abstinent cigarette smokers received nicotine gum (4 mg) in a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, crossover design. In a dichotic listening task [which required participants to attend and detect (target) deviant stimuli in one ear and to ignore similar stimuli in the other ear] which included ERP recordings and assessment of response speed and accuracy measures, nicotine gum failed to alter behavioural performance or amplitudes of ERP components sensitive to selective attention [reflected in the N100 and negative difference (Nd) component] or to pre-attentive detection of acoustic change [reflected in the mismatch negativity (MMN) component]. However, nicotine did influence the speed of these voluntary selective processes, as reflected by shortened latencies of the early Nd component. The findings are discussed in relation to the stimulus filter theory of smoking, and with respect to nicotine's actions on involuntary and controlled aspects of selective attention processes.



    I personally enjoy the way nicotine enhances my life and work. The health risks are just that. Risks.
    I am currently looking to decrease said risks by switching to the new nicotine vaporizer.
    Gum and patches are just too expensive...

    ZW
     
  7. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    You can take a low dose of speed and get more enhanced effects to your daily ability with far less health risks.
     
  8. zombiewolf

    zombiewolf Senior Member

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    Depends on what your ability's are required....

    Yeah, speed helps keep you pushing a button or doing some repetitive bullshit without getting bored....that's why they give it to kids who are bored shitless with school...and life. Makes them into obedient, productive little automatons.
     
  9. caliente

    caliente Senior Member

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    Nicotine has been shown to increase mental capacity

    Have you totally taken leave of your senses?

    Cigarette smoking has been implicated as a major cause or contributor in a boatload of diseases and medical conditions, including the following:

    1. cancer of the lungs, mouth, bladder, pancreas, and cervix
    2. all manner of lung disorders, including emphysema, pneumonia, and asthma
    3. heart disease
    4. hypertension
    5. strokes
    6. diabetes
    7. gingivitus

    Literally millions of people die from these things around the world every year.

    Smoking also aggravates the following:

    1. duodenal ulcers
    2. osteoperosis
    3. male infertility and impotence
    4. leukemia
    5. weakened immune system
    6. causes all sorts of problems with unborn children

    If you're seriously going to sit there and try to say that cigarettes make you smarter, and they enhance your life, then you are grotesquely deluded.
     
  10. zombiewolf

    zombiewolf Senior Member

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    Now see, it's obvious you are not comprehending.
    Nowhere did I ever say cigarette smoking promotes good health.
    It does not.
    It is the chemical byproducts that are produced in the burning of tobacco,not the Nicotine, that have the most impact on your health.
    Number one is Benzine...arguably the most carcinogenic and mutagenic chemical on the planet.

    However PURE NICOTINE used in very small doses has been shown to have a relatively benign effect on the body.



    Once again, I like the effects of Nicotine however I am also aware that smoking tobacco can negatively impact ones health. Even in the short term.

    Quitting smoking doesn't necessarily mean a person has to give up Nicotine.

    There is an oral tobacco product called "Snus" that has been available in Sweden for a long time now that is recently being marketed here in America. Studies have found no connection between the use of snus and oral cancer, chronic high blood pressure or heart disease.
    Regular smokeless tobacco is linked to oral cancer, whereas this Swedish smokeless product isn't. It's available online and in some tobacco stores.

    Oral tobacco grosses me out, so this shit is not for me.... but it might help someone else...

    I'm gonna try this...
    "Crown7 'Electronic Cigarette' Delivers All the Nicotine with None of the smoke"



    [​IMG]"Do all these smoking bans have you feeling down? Do you miss being able to puff away on your death sticks with impunity, no matter where you were? Well, this Crown7 "electronic cigarette" will allow you to enjoy some piping-hot nicotine wherever you are, be it a place that allows smoking or not. It's basically a nicotine vaporizer, using nicotine cartridges to give you the drug you so badly crave. They market it as an answer to smoking bans, but it seems just as suitable for helping you quit your disgusting habit as well."


    http://gizmodo.com/300682/crown7-el...ivers-all-the-nicotine-with-none-of-the-smoke




    ZW
     
  11. Jokerzilla

    Jokerzilla Banned

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    I smoke and my clothes don't smell like crap, nor has smoke gone over my taste buds. My taste buds always immediately kick in when I'm eating or drinking something.
     
  12. natural philosophy

    natural philosophy bitchass sexual chocolate

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    wow i must have hit pretty close to the mark to get that kind of reaction.

    i was speaking in abstract

    not only do you have a smoking problem, you seem like you have an anger problem as well. go smoke a cig, it will make you feel better.

    :cheers2:
     
  13. Jokerzilla

    Jokerzilla Banned

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    How do I have a smoking problem? It's hard to get addicted after less than two months of smoking seeing as I went a lot of days last month without smoking. I also don't have an anger problem, I just don't appreciate people telling me I have a problem when I don't. Come next month I'll temporarily stop smoking, which shouldn't be too big of a problem.
     
  14. natural philosophy

    natural philosophy bitchass sexual chocolate

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    all signs point to yes

    denial is just one more step on the road to acceptance and eventual success in quitting.

    be strong! you can do this!
     
  15. Jokerzilla

    Jokerzilla Banned

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    Well, I'm not about to argue or engage in childish discussions with you so I'm done. Welcome to the ignore list. :)
     
  16. mmg

    mmg fish out of water

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    lol, just cuz you choose to occasionally substitute a cigarette with a smoking of the cock does not mean you are not addicted.

    proof.

    SHABAM!
     
  17. Jokerzilla

    Jokerzilla Banned

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    Cool, thanks for the compliment. :)
     
  18. longhaircountryboy

    longhaircountryboy Banned

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    hell,I've been smokin cigs,& occasionally pipe & cigars since I was 11 years old,& can still outwork kids 10 years younger.my pappy smoked from 11 on & lived to be 82.My step-sons g-ma still smokes & drinks & she's 93.Only thing smokin gonna hurt is your wallet,especially with this jackass of a president we got now
     
  19. caliente

    caliente Senior Member

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    Somebody always says something like that.

    You're misunderstanding statistics terribly.

    Nobody ever said that every single person who ever in their life took a puff on a cigarette would die of lung cancer before they were 30. That's not what statistics tell you.

    What they tell you is the odds. And your odds of getting lung cancer and a boatload of other things goes up astronomically if you smoke. That is a fact. No amount of anecdotal exceptions about "your pappy" or "your grandma" will change that fact.

    This is like saying if you run across the freeway at rush hour, your odds of getting flattened go up by a huge amount. Is it still possible that somebody will make it across? Of course it's possible. But you're a fool if you take that to mean that it's therefore safe to run across with impunity.
     
  20. MikeE

    MikeE Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Yeah, I've been smoking since 1970 and I can work most 20 year olds can't keep up with this old man.

    On the other hand, I can't sing like I used to, my voice sounds crappy and I have no breath control.
    I can't go walk up a hill without breathing really hard.
    The smoking has not been good for me.

    I guess the working thing has to do with age and experience. (Did you ever notice that younger folks can't stand still, they're always moving, lousy way to take a break.)
     
  21. NotDeadYet

    NotDeadYet Not even close.

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    That's the kind of crap that my father used to say, up until the day before cigarettes killed him.
     

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