Sick! The site needs to be shut down!

Christ ... you are nuts ... to think someone who flips like you do and has views as you have ever being allowed in a place like this scares me .. just goes to show eh .. you will be forgiven and spared from the fiery depths of hell you say if we give up our delusions .. just who you think you are and who you come across as are two totally different things I can say and i am sure there is the odd one who would agree with me .. odd in your eyes i'm sure .. I have to laugh .. You have just entered into the realms of the stupidity with one enormous leap .. merry landings.








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ok Honestly I respected you till right about....
NOW....

But now your really over the line.
I can see where you'd be so passionate about it being a bad thing to advocate. And it so very is. But none of us are advocates. Perverts most likely don't come into parenting to look for child porn. Probably a child molester would hang out in young hippies or perverts kickit in love and sex or real kinky forums to find what they want. Or in chat rooms or whatever...
Your really over the line expecting for us to listen to you with your horrible attitude.
No I don't hink you should be banned for it...but if you don't like it report it. Don't call us bad mothers...were the ones with children that we care for and protect. We don't hide from this crap we acknowledge it exsists and don't hide it we deal with it.

 

The thing is that Michael is the one who is perhaps the real pedophile. It is just a reflection of his self, and his anger towards me is his frustration with his own twisted being. Point that finger back at yourself. You speak out of ego, and lack of any sort of true intelligence/heart to call me a bad mother.

Lost Michael, you are lost and you have no clue how to get back out. Your shattered, and you need to get help NOW.

 

Michael, I think that you just need to take a deep breath, and turn OFF your computer for awhile. You have lost it. You need to take a break, and ground yourself.

 

i have mixed feeling's on this 1 , 1st child porn is wrong! im sure that isnt the arguement tho, but im kinda glad the link got posted maybe after acknowledgement of sites like that, sum 1 will get pissed offf enough to do something about it. im mean if u seen that on here an it pissed u off do something about the problem dont waste it on bashing some 1 ..the person who originally posted it made there reason clear clear to me anyways ,i would like to put a end to sites like that but wouldnt know where to start , although if the parents of those innocent kids think it's alright well then its gonna be hard to stop it,im sure they'll come up with plenty excuse'sso micheal i think ur prob is with the parents of those kids not the ones talking about it or even veiwing the pics its the parents!!!

 

Child Porn or Otherwise

I think people are guilty of getting into bitter arguments here on what is obviously an emotional subject and one that fills many of us with absolute disgust.

Firstly, for Michael to deride someone for drawing attention to the link is not helpful. In some ways he has a point. It may be a little misguided to publicise the site which in the end just gets it more hits and runs the risk of encouraging people to look at the site who may or may not be influenced one way or another by what they see.

Michael, to say that porn disgusts you doesn't necessarily bring people to your way of thinking or lend itself to any active and useful debate. Most men, self included have looked at porn either on or offline at some stage or other. When I first started to use the internet it was interesting and far cheaper than running out and buying a magazine - if you're into that kind of thing.

Personally, after a few weeks online the porn sites became annoying and repetitive and their attempts to get you to dial up or stay on their site by use of multiple windows is something we should all be concerned about - especially as many of us allow our kids to use the internet.

Whilst I did take a look at the site in question and whilst I am amazed that parents would let their kids appear in that way - its almost an open invite for any perv online to oggle at their children - I don't think that there is anything anyone can do to stop a site like that. The laws in Europe, the USA and most western countries draw the line at nudity. Whilst this is clearly not child porn it is blatantly exploiting children. The fact that these sites have active membership behind a closed membership password is far more sinister.

I have run and operate a multitude of websites and recently on one portal, of over 3000 pages and thousands of links, it hit the regional press for having a link off a link - 3 links deep, showing topless girls. Very mild you might think and it shows how the press and all concerned have very little understanding of the net - typing porn in google is just one link away from porn.

The issue was that children in a school had viewed topless girls ( all over 18 ) from clicking on three links away from one of our sites on a link listed on one of our many pages. The press had a field day and so did we. Our hits on this site went from 1000 a day to over 3000 a day and it got the site noticed immediately. We removed the link immediately as it had no relevance to our site at all but we still benefitted from all the publicity.

The newspaper that reported the link ended up in hot water themselves over it. Their headline read ' Children as young as 9 view topless girls from city website'. The whole thing went terribly wrong for them when concerned parents started to query why a classroom of kids were left unattended and browsing the net. To make matters worse, the newspaper in question regularly advertised massage and escort services in is columns and had hundreds of calls of complaints and accusations levied against them as a result of their article. The old saying ' Those in glass houses' applies.

All you do by viewing such a site is increase their hits. The only people who will benefit is the site owners. Reporting them will not get them stopped as they are acting within the law. In addition, it is a well known fact that companies wishing to operate outside of the USA or Europe will use old Eastern Block countries, particularly Russia, to house their content on foreign servers.

The best thing we can all do is block these sites, refuse to acknowledge them and get software / monitor our kids use of the internet.

I think we all agree that we would not want to promote this site around the internet which is unfortunately just what we are doing right now.

It's not the worst site out there. It won't be the only one. You can't stop them but you can ignore them. If we all ignored them they wouldn't be popular would they.

God gave us men a penis and a brain, but only enough blood to run one at a time.

 

We are not promiting this site .. quite the opposite in fact.

It sexually exploits children .. you insinuate that its acceptable in comparison to other sites.

How does that relate to this issue? speak for yourself?



Where children are concerned I have enough blood to run both as my penis is not involved.


You can recognise child models as opposed to child porn when you see it. There is no grey area.


We can and do change things .. you just need to have faith .. moreover you need to face the issues.


Hopefully that is my last word on this issue on this particular thread. I have spoken and posted in the uk forums about this thread and I know personally that 18 of the people there have reported this and its only a small step but a step nonetheless. Not one person has raised any of the objections that micheal or yourself has.


Peace

 

I truly feel sorry for the parents who visit your parenting forum. Your ignorance and stupidity are amazing.

HAHAHA

Whenever they decide to let you out of the nuthouse, you should really look into comedic writing. That's some of the funniest stuff I have read in years. Be forgiven by whom, may I ask? You? Wow, almost sounds like you're passing judgement on others. And considering the stance you've taken on this issue, I'm guessing that you affiliate yourself with a group of people who are supposed to believe that you're not supposed to judge others. Only you're using this to start your own self-righteous crusade and blame the very same people that are trying to do something about it. Oh, I'm sure deleting the link posted in a forum is going to solve all the world's child porn problems. (sarcasm. check it in a dictionary) It's the self-centered attitudes of morons like you that let this crap thrive. You think that NOT speaking about something is going to make it all better. And that discussion of the topic is going to create "monsters".

It's sad that you've put yourself in a box and can only comprehend your little slice of reality. It's sad that you really don't seem to know how the world works. Posting a link to objectionable material in order to bring it to other's attentions isn't going to create perverts. I think you're just upset that you didn't get to experience the challenge of searching for the porn itself. It must have been too easy for you to click on the link and then get your rocks off. Pedos aren't instantly created by verifying what someone else stated by clicking on a link. It takes much more than that. So by your rationalization, should I accidentally look at a site for cross-dressing sheep loving satanists, the next day I'm going to be out looking for a dress to wear while I draw pentagrams for my marriage rituals to a farm animal.

You're an idiot and it shows. Albeit, you may have all the best intentions in the world. But you're still an idiot.

As MANY have stated before me, pedos tend to know where to find the sick shit that they are looking for. That's no big surprise. Seems to be something you're conveniently ignoring. CB provided a link to offer proof and documentation. Legitimacy that these things exist. Perhaps had she not provided a link, these sickos patrolling the parental forums would have had to perform a search , and then instead of one example, they're going to have 100 examples.

Once again, hiding from the issue doesn't make it go away, and berating those who are actively trying to do something about it is only making it worse. I see two people who are sickened by these sites, as they well should be. However, she's bringing it to our attention so that we are aware and then can do something about it. You, on the other hand, are working to the advantage of the very sites you supposedly condemn. You are actually fighting against those who want them removed. If nobody knows about these specific sites, then they will continue to operate under the public's radar within relative secrecy.

Get over yourself.

 

http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=637894&postcount=15

Hmmmm...it's starting to come together...making a little bit of sense, even.

Brought to you by the same person who thought looking at a link was going to turn people into pedophiles. Well, I followed his recommendations and now I'm a crackhead !

 

Micheal, what the fuck is wrong with you? Apple is an incredible mother! She is compassionate, caring, loving and a good child advocate, and, um she has actual (real) children! You don't know a good mama from a bad. What she did was to call attention to something, not "promote" it. You can't tell the difference? Sometimes we need to look at something very ugly (like that site) to be able to fight things like it.

Apple is far from ignorant. She didn't create any perverts. My mothering instinct is tingling and I think I have an idea why you are so upset. You need help, dude. Serious help. I shut my mouth until now. But attacking Apple was it! She is actually a PARENT! She did this to help. You are not going to get banned for this, I would guess, Micheal, but damn, your sense of reality is really shakey. Is it drugs or booze or what? Please get some help.

A "parenting" site run by a dude who has no kids? :H

 

Michael does have a good point. We already know this stuff exists. Why provide links to access it? And Maggie, are you real life friends with Apple or just internet buddies? Wondering.

 

I am maggie sugar and maggie sugar is me muahahahahaha

 

What does that mean?

 

jk. I just respect her cus she knows a lot.

 

Wake up .. Have you missed all the points made here?

 

aye .. but one thing Maggie, it was actually Cosmic Butterfly who posted this thread.

 

It dosent matter weather my name was there or cozmic...cozmic fits everything maggie said as well. The point is that we arnt tryin to advocate the site nor are we perverts or "bad mommies"

 

You wake up, moron! We have been discussing "the point" up until your interjection!

 

Thanks for you support Mamas. I do not want to even bother with him anymore.

I was given the link to this website from another mother that I PM through Mothering.com. I was so blown away by how nasty that website was, and how it is blatantly still running. I know that stuff like that exists, but I thought it is really underground. I doubt that I created any pedophiles, and young boys jacking off to this? Does that make sense? Older lonely guys come to mind, not teenage boys. But who really knows...


BTW, I think the authorities should raid the website owners house. I bet they would find definately find something.


Peace Love