Its pretty clear that's the context why he was saying that for them it's just a(nother) job. For people who actually crave a real gf experience instead of what a prostitute offers with a service called "the girlfriend experience" its more like fooling themselves. For me its the same with the fantasy of doing a threesome; I don't wanna fulfill it by making the 3rd person a prostitute. I want hot steamy sex with (at least ) 2 other people who want the same, from eachother. One person in there 'just doing their job' (this is how brack ment it as well, VG ) would likely ruin it for me. It definitely wouldn't feel like my threesome fantasy would be fulfilled, as it is different. I notice a lot of men equate anything called a threesome with their threesome fantasy, no matter the differences or quality, as long as they have one. Scratched from sex bucket list so to say. But (as brack also touched upon) a lot of men also just wanna jizz in a woman instead of their hand, and even though their fantasy/exact craving of it is a lot different, they also seem to equate any sex with a woman with their topnotch fantasy, no matter how lousy or cheap or bad it was. Sex with a woman is sex with a woman, thus fantasy/craving fulfilled. This is why there are a lot of cheap prostitutes after all. And also why women are raped. If the fantasy was actually revolving around having sex with a hooker then of course its a diff thing.
I guess the vid was talking about pick up tricks and faking stuff in order to increase ones chances? Yes, those guys resorting to that are often creepier. It depends on the details as always. But learning tricks from a pick up artist vs. learning by trial and error through some sincere attempts.. Yups. Both can come across real creepy btw
Well if you do watch porn, then that means that you think doing so is less "shallow" than having sex with an actual human being (if the human is a prostitute). I'm getting at the question of which has more shame to it. In my case I possibly need to practice having sex. Because I've gotten two girls home in my life. With the latter of these I wasn't able to cum. How am I to be confident approaching women if I know that when I get home I mightn't be able to fuck them properly.
Despite the descripition, I don't think that many guys actually have such illusions. The intent is probably more comparable to going to a bar to hook up for a one night stand and saving the awkwardness of waking up next to a stranger.
Not at all. Playing with a sexual fantasy (which includes watching porn) is a different thing than having sex, or trying to fulfill a sexual fantasy that way. You seem to equate the two with eachother.. I'm also not saying having sex with a prostitute is a shallow solution to fulfilling a fantasy by definition. It depends on that sexual fantasy. My fantasies do not involve hookers, therefor I'm hesitant to fulfill them by making use of their services.
Perhaps. I don't know for sure about all other guys of course. For me having sex with someone who wants to have sex with me is more worthwile than having sex with someone who's primarily doing their job, and NOT really comparable. It's also worth the possible (likely chance on ) awkwardness next morning But picking someone up from a bar for a one night stand is usually also not my preferred option. If I would I might leave before going to sleep (not that im that scared of an awkward waking up next to eachother , but I probably won't even sleep well at all next to a stranger. You?). I would not be offended or something if I would took somebody home with me and after the sex she says I'm going home instead of sleeping here.
Neither are my preferred options. There are shallow aspects in sex as being a necessarily inebriated activity and monetarily transactional activity. But I don't think "because it's their job" suggests anything about their performance or how into it they are really. A musician can enjoy a jam session if you know what I'm saying.
Well maybe you get plenty of action. But what if you were like me, wouldn't you eventually just want to actually have sex... regardless of whether it felt shallow or not?
Yes, and I think this is the primary function of prostitutes in society. And the primary reason its said to be one of the oldest trades. Definitely get what you're saying here and also agree. I'm not saying they can't be into it at all, just to be clear. Although... I think we also agree the chance is higher with a high class (and/but also very well paid) escort than with a very cheap street or window prostitute. Yes, men could put it she's so cheap because she just loves it :-D (but that's wishful thinking). For me personally though the mutual interest is too important to resort to a prostitute. I think we can both agree she's at first instance up for it because its her job. I don't mean to say therefor it is not a worthy option for others. I don't perceive shallowness (which may sound unneccesary negative here) in one time encounters a turn off or unwanted by definition either btw. But ideally both are into some shallow funky time then. Not just one.
He's exaggerating what he perceives to be true. Um... I don't know. I've confused myself now with that wording. I'm more wondering why HE said it.. Of course there are creepier things. Following a girl home and watching through her window for example. But PUA is creepy. Creepier than not doing it. The whole thing with learning to pick up women is that it makes "women" so generic. Like, it doesn't matter which one so long as she's pretty enough. That's what makes men like that so unappealing. It only works if a woman hasn't learned to see through it. A man would be better off learning guitar. Worthwhile AND may help attract women. But that shouldn't be the point. Men are attractive when they have talents and interests that are higher priority to them than women.
Ideally yes, there may be other factors to consider however. there was a stat circulating here a few years ago that 1 in 5 college women are sexually assualted by another student. I'm unsure of the veracity of the stat but it may give guys pause to think that mutually being into it may not always be as obvious as it may seem when drunk.
Hmm. Morals are all different. As for the 3som, one reason it doesn't work IRL for people is its hard to find that third partner unless you're completely comfortable with your sexuality which when it comes down to it, one partner isn't so a 3som mostly remains a fantasy to most couples. I don't think paying for the 3rd partner is shallow at all I think it's a smart idea. You're getting someone who's at least into the idea and it's their job to perform, it's also someone you don't have to face ever again which is appealing for many people. My sexual curiosity far outweighs any feeling so morals or shallowness. Personally, maybe I feel shallow for saying I'd never see a hooker like I'm so great they don't deserve me I can do better than that. On any given day maybe I can I don't know. I've done the 3som many times and way back when I was younger. It's not about the 3som anymore it's about perfection of the female body and fantasy Roleplay excellence. As I get old there's one growing circumstance I find with everybody know that's getting older, or older people I have met and that's that sexual experience is often sought after and a troublesome thought for people as they age. Experiences never had can play harmful negative on the psyche of a person male and female, so I don't want to go down that road. The opportunities for any fantasy are easily achievable if you want them, but just waiting for it to happen that's just not ideal for me right now. I know @Asmo wasn't saying he thinks people are shallow for using the service I think he means his personal feelings towards himself doing it is shallow and that's understandable I completely understand that and I thought that too a while ago. I also get the feeling that random sporadic moments with the services equate to a negative experience as anxiety takes over, performance issues, she couldn't get a guy hard, the guy blames her says it wasn't good when it was only anxiety and performance issues. That's something females don't get and don't have to worry about. Yeah, I see nothing wrong with few times a year, travel to the city, organise a night out at the strippers and come back to hotel a stunning escort for a late night of sin. especially when your partner is into the voyeur aspect of what's going on, I just don't have the same feelings or hangups others have or think they'll experience. It's all good fun to me.
One of my first experiences was at high class (only high class) just to see what an Asian girl was like and we had a bath together and some wine and it was actually a blissful experience, romantic and intimite with no sex involved. A complete waste of money? Yeah maybe, but then again not really for me, I thought it was really nice and beautiful. Could I have tried to go out and get that Asian girl IRL? Possibly... But it had never happened before lol. The heart wants what the heart wants and that night it wanted Asian, it was always a thing of mine to see what Asian girls were like and I wasn't going to pass up the opportunity and other than towelling each other and holding each other in a spa tub, that was really it which is why alluded previously that it's not all about the sex to some people. Sometimes it's the company, or the visuals or the intimacy, not just the sex and I feel that's important to remember too. What you do with women or men is what you do, not everybody else. So just cause someone sees a escort service, doesn't mean they're gonna belt em up black and blue.... That hard ass may be a little sweetie on the inside and you'd never know it, but for behind closed, expensive doors. kinda like young Irm here.
i would definitely give it a try anyway. same way i tried pineapples on a pizza and discovered that they're fucking amazing.
And lying in your beds, many many years from now. Would you be willing to trade all of the days from this day 'till then for a chance! Just one chance! To express your fantasies and desires with your wives and to celebrate the opportunity for your 3som!! An ~Irminsul~ Original©®™