Should I dose again at all?

I am King..You can't stop mearty::hide::santa1:

 

i think you can use this same argument for a few things it's not what's wrong with psy culture it's what's wrong with certain people. i know people who just want to fight, addicted to the rush of it etc, just think of the drug as Adrenaline.

 

I will agree on the point that LSD can cause really bad trips as well. (Not that I've still had the chance to try it.) Anyway, as I said in an earlier post, I've never heard of psilocybin causing such a prolonged experience under a regular dose. I don't see why people have to throw out the notion that drugs can allow demons in in bad settings, and in this case, stay afterwards.

Also, I think I'm the only one that posted that the mushrooms could have been laced which is a scary thought but completely possible. It could have been PCP or something dangerous like that.

 

theres a lot of speculation in this thread and the truth is that no one here (including yourself Fresh) has any idea whether or not the L had anything to do with bringing your schizophrenia to surface.
After a few responses from a couple of people voicing their distaste for mushrooms, you some how have "already established that it was in fact the mushrooms that I had a bad reaction to, not the LSD" despite the OP where you admitted that before your bad mush trip that the constant dosing made you "feel like I was losing some touch with reality"

schizophrenia

n.
1. Any of a group of psychotic disorders usually characterized by withdrawal from reality, illogical patterns of thinking, delusions, and hallucinations, and accompanied in varying degrees by other emotional, behavioral, or intellectual disturbances. Schizophrenia is associated with dopamine imbalances in the brain and may have an underlying genetic cause.


it seems like you are going to dose again regardless of what is said here and to be honest i think it makes more sense that you do it now instead of waiting for a year because if it does cause your schizophrenia to resurface there will be more time for you to heal as you are still young and your brain is not done growing.

i hope everything works out for you man :coffee:

 

This is my problem. Don't take it personally brah, cause you're not the only one. But going to wikipedia and using it as some sort of legitimate thing to measure up against whether somebody has schizophrenia or not. Which is really no different than what doctors do. They have a checklist with certain symptoms on it and if 7 out of the 10 match up they throw this umbrella term around it such as Schizophrenia or OCD, or ADD, or GAD, etc. etc.

And then the "victim" of such a disease can justify their behavior with their made up disease.

I understand that certain people have certain tendencies, as do i. You could say that i have OCD, but i use that term very lightly.

For some reason i feel like Schizophrenia should be the same. A more extreme example of the same dilemma. Withdrawal from reality? Illogical Patterns of thinking? Delusions? Hallucinations?.....

I don't really know what "reality" is. I don't know what "logical" thinking would be, or should be, and i fancy diving off the deep end with "illogical" patterns of thinking. There are plenty of people that have delusions about themselves and others. It's a common aspect of humanity. I've hallucinated from tripping mushrooms before. WE'VE ALL had "varying degrees of emotional, behavioral, or intellectual disturbances."

And on top of that, i have a growing suspicion that Extraterrestrials are coming and that they are perhaps even communicating with me. (no way!)

Therefore, due to the wikipedia page, which sadly, is probably not that different from what doctors and psychiatrists use, i must suredly be Schizophrenic


See?....


I am King :hat::troll::biggrinjester:

 

This is what needed to be said.

 

Not even close.

Tell you what China Cat, there are thousands of entry level positions in the mental health care field all around the country. Go apply, the high turn over rates practically guarantee that you will get the job. Work a few months, learn a few things. I'm tentatively guessing that your mind will be fucking blown. You'll learn how for granted you take a sound state of mind.

 

I actually find myself agreeing with neodude here. It's funny how a lot of these 'acid gurus' are so loud about questioning the validity of religion and government and healthcare... but when someone in their own community has a crisis they are just as superstitious and powerless to offer any meaningful help.

Dacre, clean up and stay off these substances for a while. If you don't feel the need to quit all together then just take at least a year off to reflect upon your life and your health in soberity. If you can stay true to the limnits you set for yuorself you can stay true to yourself. And that's what mental health is all about IMO.

 

I have anything but a sound state of mind.

And honestly, i need money, and would be interested in working in such an environment, to learn more. I might have to do some searches in my area..

 

I agree. but I'm thinking he's likely a paranoid schizophrenic, not schizoid.

 

Precisely. It's all about your own limits that you set up for yourself and how far you are willing to go. YOU decide whether you're insane or not. You are the only one that could ever make such a decision. A million people could tell you that you are insane, but if that word means absolutely nothing to you, then what impact does it have? Insanity, Schizophrenia are simply words. Labels that have no intrinsic value other than the ones that you yourself give them. Thus YOU being the ultimate master of your reality. It's always ultimately the case. Whether you're in a psych-ward or not.

 

Thats just crazy.

Your "philosophy" may be applicable if you lived on a desert island with no interaction with other people, but within the context of social interaction, there are applicable definitions of sanity and insanity. Just because you may not like being compared and evaluated relative to your peers does not negate the validity of such evaluations and comparisons.

 

Yes, but 100 different people could make 100 different evaluations on me. All of them only a tiny boxed up idea in their heads of who i am. I don't even know who i am. Why would they? My thoughts about myself are just as flimsy as theirs are.

 

Like, i could decide that you are Satan just as easily as you could decide that i'm insane. And either way, if the other person's decision has zero impact on the person that they're talking about, then that judgment doesn't even exist for that person. They are completely free from it.

A cup could be sitting on a table. To one person, it's a cup. To another person, it's Hell. Point being that the only value anything has is the value that you give to it.

 

This type of irresponsible post-modern relativism is fucking lazy and stupid.
If I punch you in the face and your nose is broken and it hurts, are you the master of that reality? Or did I just intrude all up in your space and physically force you to feel something, regardless of how you interpret it. And your conviction that your state of mind is not sound is laughable. If you are going to talk about mental illnesses, you seriously need to educate yourself about them, because a person with schizophrenia is a lot more than someone who met 7 out of 10 questions on a wikipedia check list. If you honestly think modern psychiatry amounts to nothing more than internet quizzes, well, then I guess that would explain a lot of your opinions.
The point is that, yeah, you COULD decide that PB_Smith is Satan, but that doesn't make it true. And yeah, truth actually exists in an objective context! It really sucks, I know, but that's part of life.

 

Who are you to know whether my state of mind is sound or not? You know me?

You could decide a million things about me, and it doesn't necessarily make it true. Yeah, I know.

Define objective for me please. Because ultimately "objective" and "subjective" are both meaningless. There is no inner or outer. There's just the One.

 

Shit, my cover's blown :reddevil:

 

Pardon me for assuming, but people who are of an unsound state of mind are not lucid in their engagements, do not provide coherent responses, and certainly do not poke fun at the possibility that they may be delusional.

 

neo, they do use a form of checklist to diagnose mental illnesses. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagnostic_and_Statistical_Manual_of_Mental_Disorders

however, the argument that insanity and schizophrenia doesn't really exist is just naive. the OP was obviously suffering an internal crisis. the key word is mental illness. if the condition someone is experiencing affects their ability to function in day to day life and society, there's a problem. regardless of whether they have accepted it personally or not.

 

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