I did not read the majority of the last part or think it was lasting effects of such intensity. I definitely HAVE not experienced to such an extent lasting psychotic effects from psychedelics, despite having had lasting psychotic effects. now that I realize the impact of your situation your mind needs recovery, and taking any psychoactive probably isn't a good idea. Hell stay away from Caffeine even, I used to have psychotic effects just from coffee in the morning, and this was roughly November of last year a time influenced heavily by my interpretations of good and evil, spirits. But that was my last trip before I realized psychedelic experience was in full a breaking of all constructs to the basis of sensual reality. I still believe that thought loops are one of the major causes of mental illness and most can be prevented by true thought, not to mention my support of neuroplasticity. Idea like lord Shiva, and the experiences of the ancient cultures giving rise to such notions, is just interpretation of their existence in such grandios of tale. But maybe what resides is just what is natural. Maybe it's just you getting in the way, I mean what a description!, how you reached such perception of events is elaborate in mind. Is there a too late? As far as we know, yes, or perhaps not, maybe we just haven't found the cure. For you, you probably have a lot of time to figure it out.
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I disagree. Just because you don't know why she survived, and coincidently, there was a lot of praying going on, doesn't mean that the praying is linked to her survival. Sloppy thinking.
They do that to me all the time. But usually they're stupid ass posts. I can't count how much rep I got for N/A
I feel that psychedelics are just increasing your sensitivity to vibrations and energy to a point where you feel live and see them, picture you as a tennis ball on a blanket. Under the blanket is a realm where everything living and dead and all things ever thought or said are stored. When you take a psych you go from a tennis ball to a bowling ball. I think the more in tune you get with vibrations the heavier you are so you may get things trying to speak to you or you might just hear them or whatever. I dunno dude. I was going to not read your thread because it's semi-long but I'm glad I did. Dose again if YOU think you should not us. But, if you want my opinion I think you should because you seem like a strong enough person and you'll overcome any bad trips and what not
Oh Fresh, I don't know if it got burried, but my advice was take a year of psychedelic abstainance to reflect on your life and where you are in it right now before dosing again.
^ I mean that's not a bad idea. I think I may even continue my break.... I just don't know about my life.
It's hard to either prove or disprove the praying scenario. In a very practical way, getting a large gathering of people together and focusing their intent on a specific thing is bound to have an effect. Whether you call it praying or not is rather irrelevant. There's more energy going on here than you might think, and if the wavelengths are all in harmony with each other, that's where intense things have the potential to happen. Isn't this like the basis of quantum theory? The subject plays a direct role in the object in which he is measuring. This is what a rock concert, in its truest essence, is all about. At least in my eyes. You're gathering a lot of people together, and you're really doing a sort of ritual. You're bringing everybody into a collective presence and you're harmonizing the collective wavelength and vibrational frequency. The musician is the channeler, as he reaches into the Unmanifest and channels pure energy out into the audience. There is no doubt whatsoever that this will have a direct impact on not only your consciousness and perception, but on your physical body. These are waves of energy being thrown at you. The point is is that potential healing could take place here. We are more powerful creatures than we give ourselves credit for. Your consciousness shapes and molds your reality. This is why i'm not interested in any beliefs of any kind, because what you believe is what you project and is what you see. This is why Christians ONLY see mystical images of Jesus, and why Hindus ONLY see images of Shiva. Your conditioning projects your reality. Anyway, back to the point, there's also been experiments done where someone takes two different plants, puts them in the same exact conditions, and one they give lots of love to, the other one they say hateful things to, and the plant that gets hated upon actually ends up crippling and dying as the other one blooms and flourishes. The first time i heard about this, which was years ago, i was very intrigued. This is a classic demonstration of how it seems that consciousness has a direct effect on the objective reality. Though i do understand that the word "seems" needs to highly be taken into account. It could have just been a coincidence. So there's definitely a chance that praying for the dying baby could have actually saved the baby's life, though i'm not going to say that it's for certain.
Good post China, pessimism is good, but it itself can blind the truth. The Rock concert is a great example, I've heard almost every jam band in interviews speak about the synergistic cycle between each other and the crowd. Umphrey's McGee just did a short film called The Tabernacle, in which is on youtube, and they speak about what they thought was one of the best performances they put on, mostly due to the energy of the crowd, and how they were in a theater setting that created a better physical setting for the cycling of energy from top to bottom. Every show they thank the crowd, not only for coming, but for doing a "good job." And yes, some believe, and have run verifying experiments that intent and will has a direct impact on quantum forces. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QcKDvcnZrE"]YouTube - Quantum entanglement and the Power of Intention
In this instance^, the pure potential would be equivalent with the Unmanifest. I like what he said at the end about the occult too. Magick is one of those areas that many would consider to be "magical thinking" (no pun intended), yet all it really is is the focusing of consciousness onto anything in the objective world, and any object is also completely comprised of consciousness as well, and using that focus to direct and manifest a desired outcome. But if not harnessed correctly, Magick can turn bad and quick. If you put the wrong intentions into it, or if you mishandle the energy, the feedback loop could turn vicious. What you put into it will come full circle and slap you in the face. Isn't this all that karma really is? You're putting a certain energy out into the universe, and you're magnetizing and attracting energy of a similar density or wavelength back to you, thus creating your life scenario.
i think, that once we get to this level of thinking, that the reactions formed are the prime indicator of what should and should not be done. what we see in reality as a result of our actions is what shows us whether we have made a mistake or not. belief and the establishment of relationships is what creates power. power is tested through virtue and faith vested through love. & i remember that umphreys show at the tabernacle. that was two days before furthur played there. magical time. umphreys -> http://www.archive.org/details/um2010-02-06.ccm4 furthur -> http://www.archive.org/details/furthur2010-02-08.schoeps.ccm4v.zman.fob.105883.flac16
All the ideas you mentioned China, major speculation, it even gets far away from the advances science has made with the mysterious aspects of reality. And Desos that's great that you were there, I wish I could have been. Have you seen the short film...if not you should watch it...it's really good.
Magick is not speculation. It is an art of will. Saying that it's speculation is like saying that playing music is speculation. Obviously it's not, as i play music, and my own experience confirms this for me. What's speculative about that? Just because science doesn't nod to Magick as legit doesn't mean it's not. In the same way that if a classical musician doesn't nod to hip-hop as a legit of form of music, doesn't mean it's not. And there's nothing speculative about the fact that if you hate your life you're going to see a mirror of that everywhere you turn. You attract the exact energy that you put out. If you love your life and existence, then you're sending that radar signal to the world around you, without even trying to, and you're going to see a mirror of that love everywhere you turn. You attract the exact energy that you put out.
good point, I wasn't talking about magick being speculation, although that probably is too.... I was referring to your own interpretation of the quantum field.
Listen guys, its really cool and all that you talk all this scientific by the book shit, but your like forgetting all the magic, and the mysticism, and the unexplainable things that we encounter as psychonauts. Do not brush them off as "hallucinations" or psycho blabber, you guys are killing the whole message of LSD. You guys just try and disect the shit out of a really cool idea that is filled with goodness. WHO CARES if its not "TRUE" by some books or internet websites stadards. IT IS TRUE TO THAT INDIVIDUAL, AND THIS MAKES THEM HAPPY, AND BECAUSE ITS A COOL IDEA THAT MAKES THEM HAPPY, THIS ALSO MAKES ME HAPPY. You guys gotta like just go out in the fucking woods for a week and do some REAL introspection. Im afraid people are twisting up something beautiful. And how many posters even used the word "Love" in this thread? jeeze I already posted this but I will post it again If you wanna know what time it is, you don't have to ask If you wanna know whats hers or his, you don't have to ask If you wanna know what's real or not, you don't have to ask If you wanna know where to find your spot, you don't have to ask You don't have to ask You don't have to ask You already know You already know If you wanna leave your troubles behind, you don't have to ask If you wanna go away and lose your mind, you don't have to ask If it's peace that you're looking for You got the key to every door, you already know If there's a way out you'll find out and see all and be all You'll never wonder what spell you been under To make you forget all this time If you're looking for the way, you don't have to ask You can see it plain as day, you don't have to ask If you're trying to find what's true, just take a look at all of you You don't have to ask You don't have to ask You already know You already know Hopefully someone has the ability to have a spiritual revalation from my post. Hopefully