Shameless_Heifer and Haight Ashbury

Discussion in 'Flashbacks' started by hippietoad, Sep 2, 2004.

  1. tundrahopper4

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    Shameless,
    "moccassin" I believe the spelling goes. Been reading your stuff this last hour and it could make a pretty decent movie. Have you ever thought of putting something like a DVD together? It is possible with current technology.
    Tundrahopper 4
     
  2. shameless_heifer

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    Tundra,
    Thanks for the spelling. Yes I have been thinking of turning my book(s) into a movie. I have even tried to do a manuscript. Like I said before I have no formal writing skills, only stories to tell, of my life experiences. I was thinking to day, yes, I do think, that I might want to look into home publishing and bind my own books and distribute them myself. Publishers are so expencive and copyrights are the same. The writing take most of my free time. To start a new project like trying to learn how to accomplish this. There are several things I will need to get started, to do desktop publishing. I need software that manuscripts and SPELL CHECKS, lol.
    I would love to see my book a movie. Maybe someday, if I'm so Blessed.
     
  3. shameless_heifer

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    Merry Meet Flight,
    I'm not sure if I have run across the ones in the picture, If you could clue me in as to what time frame they are in and their location, it may joggle my memory. I was there from 66' to 77' on n off, mostly on. I have seen this picture before. Ahhh yes Pink Floyd. I don't ever remember seeing them on the streets but mayhaps in the Park on Hippie Hill. Or in a doorway sharing a bottle inna bag.
     
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    i think you are blessed enough to get the chance to make your book into a film......it would be very good im sure......i would suport you in the whole film thing but alas i cant for i have no money to aid you with....but hay what you gonna do..............
     
  5. shameless_heifer

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    Hairbear My Brother,
    When the time is right, the green energy will be availble, if it is the will of the wind. What I think I need, is a ghost writer, some one I could relate the experiences to and they could type it in the way it's suppose to be. I wouldn't dream of asking green from my forum buddies. It will come in my time of need. My hubby will most likely fund me. If I'm real nice to him..lol.. I like to do things myself. When I finely get Christmas paid for in June, I will have the green I need to advance. I do appercieate your good vibes sweetie. Thank you.
     
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    well thanks i suppose, your 'hubby' sounds like one lucky man....and good luck with the whole paying off christmas thing........i hope you get what you need sooner rather then later.............but all good things come to those who wait i suppose......Good luck with future event.....Peace be to you and your loved ones
     
  7. Flight From Ashiya

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    Hi Shameless Heifer & thankyou for coming back to me so soon.

    The first photo I put up are of 'The Grateful Dead'.

    It is interesting that you said you may have seen 'The Pink Floyd' in a Park or Hippie Hill .Please have a look at the photo below.I think that it was taken in a Park in Los Angeles in November 1967.Apparently,the Floyd were hanging out on the Strip ; at the Hullaballo Club soon to become the Aquarius Theater.
    It may have been there that they met a 'Vincent Furnier ' playing with his band 'The Nazz' or was it 'The Spiders'.................Mr.Furnier was very helpful to the young British Acid-Psych Band;especially in light of the lead singer's reluctance to open his lips on'The Pat Boone Show'!!.
    Mr.Furnier later became 'Alice Cooper'.
    Ha.ha.I like the idea that they may have been "sharin' a bottle in a bag".Spiritually ,on that abortive tour- they probably were!.

    I am slowly reading through your articles on this thread.Thanks.
     
  8. tundrahopper4

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    Shameless,
    There is not a lot of money in books these days. Now if you know anybody that is into imovie or Finalcut 4 you have definitely got the material for a GREAT DVD. Some people I know produced a DVD from some old 35mm footage from a celebration I was at out in CO in '72- http://www.woodstockmuseum.com/1st_rainbow.html
    If you have or can get access to some photos, films and etc from the day you could put together a slideshow perhaps with your own anecdotes and stories from the day in a voice over narration. And/Or perhaps you could do some interview type things of yourself talking about this and that. If possible you could perhaps walk about the scenes of your adventures telling the stories. Get some musician friends to help out and bingo! You have got a (perhaps) commercially viable DVD. The tricky part is steering clear of copyright violations if you plan on marketting. I guess what I am saying is that the tyranny of Hollywood and Random House is over and that ANYONE with the will to do it can produce a documentary. I came into a massive collection of old family photos and have been doing slideshows for a couple of years now and believe me-it is therapeutic and something I hope my great grandkids will enjoy.
    Tundrahopper 4
    PS. Check out the "Crumb" movie-it is a virtual "how to" on putting together a personal documentary.
    PSS. If you do something like this you might also do a section on you handling your firearms and explaining your view on the subject.
     
  9. gate68

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    grandparents,5 students,teacher,and security guard killed others in critical condition in Minnesota.Probably volunteers to defend your right to bear arms.Where was their freedom of choice?
     
  10. tundrahopper4

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    MR Gate;
    You seem to have a definite opinion on the subject, here's mine;
    A. If guns were banned today and all honest citizen disarmed the criminal underground would have a hundred year supply.
    B. Most gun control advocates cite Europe as a model; well America is NOT Europe. Many of the best sorts of people came here but also many of the worst sorts. With all those extra y chromosomes and the like out there the US was fated to be a high crime society from the get go(how many serial killers have you ever heard of operating in Europe? Well we have an estimated 200 out there). Moreover; do we really want a disarmed European type situation? It was precisely this sort of situation that a fellow named Adolf Hitler used to tyrranize and terrorize a society into into accepting his twisted ideology. AND Herr Hitler would have had a much harder time marching his target populations off to the death camps if those populations would have had access to self protection.
    C. Gun ownership is a right conferred by our Constituition and an integral part of US history and culture. The Democratic party loses election after election on this one and never seems to learn.
    These are my views on the subject and I think I came by them honestly-life in the worst urban areas will do that to you in pretty short order. Now can we agree to disagree?
     
  11. shameless_heifer

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    Flight,
    So much for my memory...lol.. I have met Jerry Garcia on several occations altho the first few times I was unaware of who he was. He was bearded at the time.
    I lived in a place in the Haight in 70' that was a high traffic area that catered to Heroin. At the time I was oblivious to the situation. It never crossed my mind.

    I had hooked up with a dude named John Kopp after I left Cliff my ole man. He was Tall, blonde, goodlooking and a sharp dresser. I moved in with him and had a nice appartment that we shared with another couple. They seemed like ok people to me at the time. There were a lot of people coming and going. I didn't think much of it, as that was the way of the Hippie.

    On one evening while I was finishing making supper, the bearded dude that I mentioned before came in and asked me what I was making that smell so damn good. I told him I had made my special enchaladas. The dude then said that he would like to try my special enchalads. I told him to grab a plate and I would hook him up. We all set down to eat and that's when I found out who he was.

    After the meal Jerry said that he had to catch a flight and he enjoyed the enchaladas. He followed me into the kitchen as I carried the dishes to the sink. I was scraping plates as he told me that he thought I was cool for offering him to share our meal. I told him it was no problem and that I enjoyed it. He then reached out and pinched my butt and said "Peace, Angel Face" and walk out of the kitchen. I was quite embarrassed by the pinch. But I was thrilled at the same time.

    I didn't see Jerry again untill a year later. I had since moved from that place and John Kopp, after a enlightening experience. The Dead were playing at the Filmore the next and last time I saw Jerry.
     
  12. shameless_heifer

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    As for the Pink, well LA was my stomping grounds for a time. I was raised in Anahiem and of course Hollywood was the place to be. I often visited the there and lived there briefly on Hanover Street with a bunch of hippies I had met at a Griffth Park Love-In.

    I had been an exotic dancer at The Follies in the Mission District on Mission Ave and I danced at The Wiskey-A-Go-Go on Leon Russell's piano. My stage was Samantha. I saw a lot of rock n rollers in my travels and most of them were pretty cool.

    Later when I moved into the Good Earth Commune We did a lot of 'road work' for many many bands. We also organized free concerts in Panhandle Park. Big Brother and the Holding Company was one of the bands we were affiliated with, Oceola was one also. We did a lot of work for the Airplane too, such as painting their sound studio on Fell Street across from the Panhandle Park.

    When we were 'working' we had free backstage passes and got to hang with the Big Dogs. I remember one time when we were to make Thanksgiving Turkeys for 'a show' with BB and I was to make 25 turkeys with dressing. WHAT!!! Ok I says. I had turkeys in ovens all over The Haight. I had help of course, Little Annie Fanny, Sharrel, Mama Kitty and Diane. It was pretty cool.

    While we had backstage passes and the door guards were searching people for drugs and booze, we were let through without a patdown as we were bringing in food and the likes. What they didn't know or didn't care is that we were sumggling in bottles of whiskey, quarts of beer and weed inside the boxes of food.

    One of the big things then was nitrous oxide. Everyone would gather around the hose and huff the stuff and get a wild buzz. Unfortunatly for one of our good sisters Capricorn Linda met with a fatal incident with nitrious oxcide and tumbled to her death from the back stairs at one of the houses on Haight Street. Linda was a beautifull soul and she is missed.
     
  13. gate68

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    kinda like agrreeing to disagree with nixon or bush.I agree we should all try to get along,but where would we be if there wasn't desent.We could have said vietnam was wrong and then left well enough alone.No the argument for keeping guns is a weak one and as long as somebody is vocally supporting them,I will speak out against them.
     
  14. tundrahopper4

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    Mr. Gate,
    In my estimation the argument for honest citizens possessing firearms is backed up both by history and by the current facts; http://www.mcsm.org/usatlott.html
    But where did it say everybody has to agree?
    Shameless,
    I think about it sometimes and wonder how I survived all that relentless partying back in the day (yeah things were pretty wild even out here in the Great White!); Guzzling on this/handfulls of that/toking all sorts of mixed goodies/then driving around town.... I think about it and wonder if there isn't something to the "guardian angel" myths.
    haha,
    Tundrahopper
     
  15. shameless_heifer

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    Gate, I want you to know I don't go out and rally for gun use laws. But I do belive we have the right to have them if we need them of a tool. If we don't exersize our rights we will lose them. We have lost several as it is. Each one we lose makes it eaiser for them to take the next one from us, if we do not protest them being taken away. In my opinion Alcohol should be banned, there are more drunk drivers that kill more than guns kill on the average ( not including wars). There are many issuse out there and gun Controll is one of them. I don't think if you took out all the guns there would be less wars and violence, they would just find another weapon to use.
     
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    Thundra, yes it's a small miracal that any of us made it out alive and with some brain cells left. I too belive in Guardian Angels, how esle would I have survived what I did and still have LOVE LOVE LOVE in my heart. I do have my moments where the dark night of the soul creeps in, but on a whole I feel good and try to do good works.

    I remember my past but try not to live in it. It's cool to have a place where I can share some of my adventures and learn from others lives and hopes and dreams.
     
  17. tundrahopper4

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    Shameless,
    At the time I recall theorizing that it was all a big cosmic prank and a wakeup call. Doing stuff like mountain climbing on LSD? Whew! Could not recommend it! But somehow it all just sort of happened and seemed right at the time. "Righter than anything I had done before or since" in some cases. Then-for me at least-it all just stopped and there we were facing things as they were before. Well...SORTA like they were before. At least in terms of this hard world. What I carry from all that is...well, "an inner wellspring"-as well as a determination to persevere. AND... a knowledge that this hard burg is not the last word on the situation. Am I making sense?
    Tundrahopper4
     
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    *smiles*
     
  19. shameless_heifer

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    Thundra,
    Yes, I understand that feeling. It's like you do draw it from an inner well. A well with a wealth of endless knowledge. Like a cool pool of water in the desert when your parched to the core, and there is no moisture to be had outside. You go inside and all is cool and moist, the waterfalls of presents seems to flurish. Where all things are known and are sacred. When things on the outside gets confused and don't make sence, you can just go inside and connect with the spring of wisdom within and come out refreshed. I go there when I feel threatened, when I doupt myself, or am being slandered. I go in and ask, what's happening, what did I do wrong, how can I change it, make it better. I hear the answer telling me I need not do anything but learn my lessons. I come out and feel, like ok, I'm ok, nothing is wrong, it ain't nothing but a thing and all things pass. And when they do pass your left with knowledge. What you do with that knowledge is the lessons youv'e learned and as part of the agreement ,pass it forward.
    I have learned to live with myself and all my shortcomings. I am human, I make mistakes. I run my head, I am pushy, I butt in, I'm opinionated. But that is the human side of me, not the spiritual side. When I'm in the Spirit, I am kind,loving and all seeing. When I am human. I tend to be tedious and unbending. I get stuck on issues that are mostly not worth the effort, no ones listening. I get defencive, I am stubborn. My Spirit laughs at my humanity and tells me, Little Flower, you are yet a bud, grow on and become the beauty of Spring. I too then laugh joyously and return from within happy and whole, knowing that it's all a learning prosses and we make our own choices as to what we bring to the table.
    Somewhere in my ramblings is a point or two. Maybe it's, Choose your battles wisely. We all have our own battles. It's not weather you win or lose, it's how you play the game. Play fair. Your enemey today my be your child in the next go-a-round or vise a versa.
     
  20. tundrahopper4

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    Claire,
    Peace and love? Yes. But I will defend me and mine against all attackers and will use whatever means necessary to stop the attack. Shameless has been in the same hard type places and come to the same conclusions. Confusing to you? Way it is out there in the real world-sorry. If I would have really taken pacifistic ideology to heart I would not be answering you today-plenty of predators out there and I could tell you some stories.... And I guess I really don't trust ideologies of any sort that require their adherants to override their common sense with platitudes. Still in the wider brush strokes Peace and Love is infinitely preferrable to strife and trouble. Infinitely.... Apache theology has it that there are two gods-one is USSEN and he is the God of Peace and Love and all that is good and worthwhile. The other is nameless and a major pain in the ass, requires massive care so as not to offend, and the author of all human miseries, capricious as all hell, bringer of fortune and bringer of death... a real bad guy. Well guess which one rules this world? And guess which one is a faroff deity that only touches humans from time to precious time? I think the ancient Apache were on to something.
    haha,
    Tundrahopper4
     

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